View Full Version : Engine Problems ..... troubleshooting
CLSSY56
02-17-2006, 02:43 PM
Let's get back to basics and see what's going on here.
Chev 265PP
305 heads (58cc)
Offy 360° intake
Edelbrock 1404 500cfm carb
1968 distributor (2 years old) w/ Crane Cam XRi pointless ignition
Only different things since I started the head swap was...
305 heads
Crane Cam XRi
spark plugs- different plugs set @ 35 gap
I started the head swap because of a blown head gasket I found while installing the XRi. Original heads looked as if valve recession was well on it's way, so I opted for the swap. 305 heads have slightly larger intake/exhaust valves. Both 265pp & 305 heads I believe are 58cc heads. The spark plug wires are over a year old and have been moved around alot because of valve adjustments.
Symptoms:
rough idle
rough slow accelleration
WOT accelleration seems just fine
seems to miss a little when just cruising at hiway speeds
jerky torque converter - lurches at idle
What are your thoughts as to troubleshoot this motor?
reborn55
02-17-2006, 03:17 PM
Any vacuum readings. Timing could be retarded. Firing order wrong. crossed wires
RAD57
02-17-2006, 03:52 PM
Besides checking for a vacumn leak, stuck float?
MikeKy55
02-17-2006, 06:08 PM
Timing and vacumn would be where I would start. Got a vac gauge you can put on it? Thats the best way to adjust the carb. The slow bottom end screams timing ( to me at least ). How about engine temp.? higher now that before? Slow timing can make one run a little hotter. The good top end would be there even if timing was slow because of the mechanical advance picking the timing up. I would also open the plug gap to 45 since your running pointless. It should fire a lot hotter than points.
CLSSY56
02-20-2006, 11:00 AM
Engine temp is still cold. Runs around 140-160.
trifive
02-26-2006, 01:42 AM
Engine temp can easily be changed with a thermostat
I prefer my engines to run cool, makes them last longer, that's why diesals last so long they run cooler than gas engines.
Otis:)
CLSSY56
02-27-2006, 12:26 PM
I've got a 180° thermostat in it.
MikeKy55
02-27-2006, 12:53 PM
I would try another gauge. Where is the sending unit located? I have seen them in the intake and when the water is a little below the sender you get a false reading.
CLSSY56
02-27-2006, 05:15 PM
This is a mechanical guage and I have double checked it with a laser thermal sensor. It is in the intake, and is in water, checked that too. I don't find this part of the problem as it ran fine before. I think I need to re-adjust my valves still, while it's running.
MikeKy55
02-27-2006, 05:29 PM
Well if the temp is that cold with a 180º thermostat, it has to be bad. It would hold the water in the block until it reaches 180º. If you suspect the valves are too tight then by all means adjust them. Prolonged running will burn valves.
CLSSY56
02-27-2006, 07:37 PM
I've tried 3 different thermostats by different manufacturers and all were the same.
MikeKy55
02-27-2006, 08:16 PM
Man Travis, you have me stumped. I haven't seen one run that cool. I better sit back and wait for more input. Please keep me posted if you learn whats up.
CLSSY56
02-28-2006, 10:07 AM
hahha most are stumped. Running down the road in the summer it's running about 160°. Idleing for 15 min. I have seen 205° but no higher.
Bama57
02-28-2006, 11:07 AM
If you don't have enough advance the car will surge in high gear.
walt bauer
05-26-2006, 02:53 PM
Some things to check with the xri. Hook the black/yellew wire to coil-. Hook the black/red wire to coil+. Make sure the ballist resister is working. According to Crane, if the xri module receives too much voltage, it will shut itself off to cool down. If you wire the xri according to the schematic in the instuctions, it will be wrong. Check and adjust if need be, the rev limiter on the module. Hope this helps you.
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