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Old 07-08-2014, 09:30 PM   #1
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Ok well what was supposed to be a do this and that and go enjoy the car is starting to get overwhelming. Every time I think I have something fixed something else pops up. I could handle getting a driveshaft cut and installing it,putting a shifter in, wiring the engine and plumbing the engine, getting brakes working and such. But now it is rubbing issues on the front tires( which I think reducing from 70"s to 50's will work), constant overheating,(burpedd it several times with no luck, actually thought I had it solved today but shot up to 230 before I could get it in the garage.) I know it could be I need a shroud, or it could be needing cleaned(new rad for all I know) but I am tired of guessing. Actually kinda getting frustrated. Been thinking about just selling the car and using the money to put a new roof on the house. But before I do that I was wondering if there was anyone on here around Medina, Ohio that has a trusted go to shop that can get me on the road before I say piss on it and get rid of it.( which I really really don't want to do). Any help would be appreciated. The help on the other questions has been appreciated.

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Old 07-09-2014, 12:54 AM   #2
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I can't help you with a shop, I live in Missouri, But I can sympathize with your frustration.

Seems like whenever we get away from how GM did it, we create more issues than we fix.

I had the same kinda frustration putting aftermarket underdash air conditioning in my 55 wagon.

As soon as I put the condenser in front of the radiator, things started heating up.

Ended up putting a shroud and a 6 blade flex fan on it to get it fixed, and that was just a 307 2bbl engine. In your case a new radiator may be in order, if you have a bigger displacement engine.

I had the same problem one time with a ford truck engine I overhauled. After that it overheated. Tried having the radiator cleaned and rodded, nothing worked until I broke down and bought a new radiator.

End of problem.

You are not alone and I sure hope you don't give up on it. Anything we can do to help, we will.
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I had the same weekend. Told the wife, I was beaten and I quit. No f'n way. Walked away for a few days. Watched a few videos on electrical issues and going back in tomorrow! Keep going. Find something that you can fix or polish for that great feeling. Remember... We all love this stuff... Good luck.
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Mike,

You might try: Royalton Auto Service, 7351 Royalton Road, North Royalton, OH, 44133

This gentleman hosts a cruise in every Tuesday so he is at least an enthusiast of our hobby. I haven't had any work done by him but he might be worth a phone call.

Mountain Motor (Milt) might also be one to give you some local advise as to where to have someone look at your car.

Hope you find/fix your problem areas so you can enjoy your car.
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OOps. Pops just beat me to it before I posted this ........

Mike ...I'm just up the road from you and feel your pain. With a mild mid-70's 350, a old flex fan, and an original (but cleaned, I think) radiator, ..On an 87 degree day I have to plan my trip so I don't get held up in major traffic. My car's temp will hover around 190 (with a 165 thermostat). Had it go to 205 on a hot day rush-hour highway cruise to the East side. Probably will put an ECP aluminum or Desert Cooler with shroud and new fan on it some day if the old one ever craps out. Right now if it ain't broke I'm not fixing it.
There's a fairly new shop and what appears to be a good mechanic at Royalton Auto Service in N.Royalton (he has a cruise night and routinely has old cars in his place, ..and used to be a radiator shop). I haven't tried him yet for anything.
Hope to see you at Brunswick on a Sat night someday.
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Thanks for the reply guys. I did put new door handles and cranks in it the other day and got that warm fuzzy feelin until I took it out for a 20 minute drive and had to rush home due to the overheat issue.

Thanks local guys for the heads up on a couple shops. I did find a guy here in medina last night before I went to bed. Called Medina Motor Sports. Looks like he restores and rebuilds and has his own machine shop. Also is very close so I believe I can make it there before overheating.

The car is not that wild. Believe it to be a 283 motor(stamped numbers are missing on forward pax side). It Could be a 350 though I guess as well. Have my tranny cooling lines into the radiator, and run a 6 bladed clutch fan with the radiator in the forward position as it was a 6 cyclinder and there was no room for the radiator in the normal position.

I think it is good I am leaving for work for the next 8 days. Gets my mind off of it for a little while. Definitely will be calling the guy in Royalton when I get home. ALmost made it to Brunswick last weekend but after I had topped off the coolant I forgot to put the cap back on and made a huge mess of everything so home I went to clean everything up. In retrospect even as cool as it was sat night I would have overheated half way there with the wife and 2 year old in the car. No Bueno!
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Thanks for the reply guys. I did put new door handles and cranks in it the other day and got that warm fuzzy feelin until I took it out for a 20 minute drive and had to rush home due to the overheat issue.

Thanks local guys for the heads up on a couple shops. I did find a guy here in medina last night before I went to bed. Called Medina Motor Sports. Looks like he restores and rebuilds and has his own machine shop. Also is very close so I believe I can make it there before overheating.

The car is not that wild. Believe it to be a 283 motor(stamped numbers are missing on forward pax side). It Could be a 350 though I guess as well. Have my tranny cooling lines into the radiator, and run a 6 bladed clutch fan with the radiator in the forward position as it was a 6 cyclinder and there was no room for the radiator in the normal position.

I think it is good I am leaving for work for the next 8 days. Gets my mind off of it for a little while. Definitely will be calling the guy in Royalton when I get home. ALmost made it to Brunswick last weekend but after I had topped off the coolant I forgot to put the cap back on and made a huge mess of everything so home I went to clean everything up. In retrospect even as cool as it was sat night I would have overheated half way there with the wife and 2 year old in the car. No Bueno!
Keep on plugging away...it takes a while to find good help but once you do...then its downhill!
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Mike, don't give up because I think you will regret, after all you can't dive a new roof, . We all have bee there at one time or another but from what you described are not as bad as you think. For the tires rubbing that's easy, sounds like yo have to big of a front tire, find out if it is because of height or width then you will know which tire to get. As for the cooling, fans without shrouds don't work, I would suggest a good electric fan and mount it as a puller. Since you wired the car that is easy to wire in, that way you know you are getting maximum airflow thru the radiator. On my SBC that is all I run with an original style down low radiator and mine cools fine. Check your thermostat or just pull it out and see how the temps get. You will get it right and then its time for some cruising, good luck to you,
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Sold my 57 ford coupe 300 with a 4spd and a solid chrome rear end, and a 64 t bird interior over issues of overheating, pulled the heads and the gaskets were on backwards and upside down, and that's after a alum rad was installed.

My pard is old time mechanic, and hot rodder, and stock car racer, and junk yard owner, and he say, you wouldn't believe how many Chevys had the head gaskets or intake gaskets installed wrong or the wrong head gasket to start with.

Keep after it, a shroud is a wonderful idea, i did it, and a puller fan, and a 6 blade 8k rpm fan, from speedway, all mine total fixed my issues. but the shroud i think is a key figure in the drama.

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couple of questions for you Mike,

has the car always had overheating issues or are they new?

do you know the history of the motor?



as pointed out above, fans without shrouds don't work very well, the further away the fan is from the radiator the worse it gets.

I buddy of mine bought a '63 C10 with a 350 in it for cheap because the owner couldn't figure out the overheating issue, took us some time but ended up finding that the intake manifold gaskets were wrong for that motor and on wrong, they had a set with small holes in the cooling passages that were supposed to go to the back of the motor on the front of the motor which caused a restriction in the cooling flow. you can look into this by draining some of the fluid out of the system, removing the thermostat housing and looking down the passage with a small inspection camera.

don't give up, there are only a few things that can cause overheating, we'll help you find it.
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