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Old 05-18-2017, 01:28 PM   #11
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Thanks for all the replies and opinions.

I figure that when I replace the solinoid I will also go ahead and replace the battery cables too.
I have had a issue with corrosion on the cables before, but with corrosion the car at least tried to crank opposed to no power whatsoever.

The ignition switch was replaced about 10 years ago but that fix was done by someone else (before I was more car-savvy) so I don't know the details of the ignition switch
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Try a little grease on those cable connections whey ya replace them, or service them, i do and have, and its not a magic bullet, but it helps, helps me anyway, and i have a high torque starter, best money spent, Chevy starters are notorious, My experience.
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Thanks for all the replies and opinions.

I figure that when I replace the solinoid I will also go ahead and replace the battery cables too.
I have had a issue with corrosion on the cables before, but with corrosion the car at least tried to crank opposed to no power whatsoever.

The ignition switch was replaced about 10 years ago but that fix was done by someone else (before I was more car-savvy) so I don't know the details of the ignition switch
Corrosion will cause it to lose all power if it is bad enough and in the right spot.
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Try a little grease on those cable connections whey ya replace them, or service them, i do and have, and its not a magic bullet, but it helps, helps me anyway, and i have a high torque starter, best money spent, Chevy starters are notorious, My experience.
dielectric grease? I see that stuff in little packets at autozon by the cashiers
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Turn key to on, all gauges come on, generator light comes on, I can hear the electric fuel pump going.
Turned key to start. I get no power.... gauges drop, fuel pump goes off, no lights on dash, starter not even trying to crank.
As soon as I let go of the key(from "start", back to "on" position) all the power comes back, lights fuel pump etc....
I don't think the power loss is an issue in the "Start" position. The start side of the ignition switch shuts down everything but the "start" circuit, or am I wrong in my understanding of how the switch works... If the starter isn't working I would think the solenoid is bad.
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First time, shame on it, second time, shame on me.
I would remove the starter, have it checked, com cleaned and undercut,new brushes, and install a new solenoid.
Mine did the same to me last year, I finally did get it to start and back home.
My starter needs to be removed to replace the solenoid, and it was a good opportunity to have it all checked a freshened up.
All suggestions given so far are good tips, but if the starter hasn't been serviced for a long period, I would definitely go through it.
Good luck with the project.

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You don't have a heat soak problem. As has been mentioned, you have a bad connection on one of the battery cables. Heat soak will not drop power to the rest of the car. When the load of the starter is put on a bad connection, the resistance goes sky high, causing all power to drop. A bad connection can be oxide build up on the battery posts, and no amount of tightening will completely overcome this. Clean, repeat clean, the posts and cable connectors. There's a $2 tool made for it. https://www.jbtoolsales.com/performa...FVGAaQod6ukNIA Check the other end of BOTH cables, especially the negative cable on the engine.
I would start with this ^^^^.

You mention replacing the cables - cables themselves rarely fail, it is the connections at the end of them that usually give trouble.

The oxide buildup that Don is referring to can build up between the battery post and terminal, and not be obvious at first. I would remove both battery terminals, check for oxide build up (boiling water will remove any), and reconnect.

Very easy, and no cost, start with the simple stuff first.
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You don't have a heat soak problem. As has been mentioned, you have a bad connection on one of the battery cables. Heat soak will not drop power to the rest of the car. When the load of the starter is put on a bad connection, the resistance goes sky high, causing all power to drop. A bad connection can be oxide build up on the battery posts, and no amount of tightening will completely overcome this. Clean, repeat clean, the posts and cable connectors. There's a $2 tool made for it. https://www.jbtoolsales.com/performa...FVGAaQod6ukNIA Check the other end of BOTH cables, especially the negative cable on the engine.
A lot of vehicles DO turn off most everything else when the ignition switch is in the cranking position. I believe tri-fives are among them as originally wired. Ignition 1 terminal looses power when in the cranking position.

When wired like factory, an easy test for the poor battery connection is to turn on the headlights. If they drop out while in crank position that would be a cable/battery problem, not the gen and oil lights.
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I would start with this ^^^^.

You mention replacing the cables - cables themselves rarely fail, it is the connections at the end of them that usually give trouble.

The oxide buildup that Don is referring to can build up between the battery post and terminal, and not be obvious at first. I would remove both battery terminals, check for oxide build up (boiling water will remove any), and reconnect.

Very easy, and no cost, start with the simple stuff first.
I pours me some coke acola on the offending cables and take a knife and clean back the cable till the green crud is no more, then clean it and taper her up until or if there is a more permanent solution.

when i find stuff on my connections, that or baking soda, and water, to get the crud off then pull the cables and do a clean up.

A battery tool, wire brush and a pocket knife. My experience so far.

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