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Old 02-03-2015, 01:58 PM   #51
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then you better learn to do a lot of it yourself. when doing a car time = money. you are buying materials and labor hours . would you work all week for 3 days pay ? it does not matter if it is paint or upholstery or engine work no one is going to do it and loose money . bass boats , golf carts , every hobby cost money . finding a shop to do paint jobs is hard because there is not a lot of money in it considering the man hours. collision work pays far better with less headaches .
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maybe the engine is over valued . why would anyone put 5-10 grand in a motor ? spending 6-10 grand for interior ? does it set any better ? what a waste . why would you spend all that money on an axle ? doesn't ride or stop better. couldn't possibly make it worth any more .
it doesn't matter which part of a car you pick none of it is necessary . it boils down to the level of car you want to build. if you want to hack together a beater go for it . if you want to build a nice driver fine. but dont put down the guys who want to take it to the next level. it's their money their car.
but i can guarantee you there is nothing more labor intense that the body and paint and the older these cars get the more it takes..
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then you better learn to do a lot of it yourself. when doing a car time = money. you are buying materials and labor hours . would you work all week for 3 days pay ? it does not matter if it is paint or upholstery or engine work no one is going to do it and loose money . bass boats , golf carts , every hobby cost money . finding a shop to do paint jobs is hard because there is not a lot of money in it considering the man hours. collision work pays far better with less headaches .
Very well put. I agree.
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Belive it or not i enjoy all kinds except junk built on purpose. I learned to paint because i could not pay to have it done. Every car i build has a budget .
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What a great discussion this has become and so many views...i think we all agree a good quality paint job takes eather a good chunck of money or a good amount of skill to do it your self.......still wish the OP would chime in or send some pictures of the car...lol
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the absolute best way is to do the prep yourself. then hire a painter to shoot it . as long as you understand he is only putting a coating on it . many do just this. painter makes some extra money you get your car painted .
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I find it interesting that the prep is the part that most folks suggest is the part for the owner or amateur. To me the blocking plays a more prominent part in resulting in the good looking paint job than the actual spraying of the paint.

Itís my observation that if a car isnít blocked correctly no matter how good the guy spraying the paint is the paint job is always going to look like crap. And the only way to repair it is re-blocking the car.

But if the guy spraying the paint makes a mistake he washes it off and re-sprays that panel. A lot of stuff can be corrected by cutting and buffing but if itís a poor blocking job no amount of cutting and buffing will help.

Personally I think I would be more willing to pay a pro to block it and attempt spraying it myself.
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I can paint a car for $200 in materials. I buy a gallon of tractor paint. reducer. and a can of super wet look hardner. even with the sandpaper primer ect it wont cost $200 for the materials. Of course its not show quality. However in not into show cars. you can mix different colors and createany color you want. We painted a corvair Allis chalmers orange with two black racing stripes. it was pretty. I painted a 65 ford truck Ford tractor blue 9also called pepsi blue) and it looked good. Almost all the stock car drivers spray their cars with tractor enamel. Its not a hot paint and wont wake up what is under it. Laugh if you want . Us poor boys got poor ways.
Have you ever tried to take it off????

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I'm with many of the above, I do the body work and can take my time at it, THEN take it to Maaco to get it sprayed.

I can also wear out my own arms, shoulders, wreck my clothes and garage as good as many others.

Using a paint booth to spray in is priceless. Spending untold hours to get a panel perfect, then have a super-bug land and swim in fresh spray, plus airborne dirt clods I gave up on.
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I just bought a 1956 Chevy Bel Air Sedan. The body is in excellent shape, as is the interior. It needs a paint job. Can anyone provide some advise or points of contact for a quality paint job for a reasonable price? Thus far quotes are in the neighborhood of $10K. Can I get a good quality paint job for half of that?
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Yes you can! Here is how you can do it. You may have to strip your own paint and get the body ready. (But that costs $$$ also no matter who does it).

Find a couple tractor restoration shops. It should not be too hard in VA. Or go to a tractor show and look at some of the trophy winners. Find the shop that did the paint. Some tractor paint shops do a better job than some automotive shops. And some do cars and trucks on the side. You would not believe the difference in cost between them and dedicated automotive shops. Some seem to have a different value of money.
Check it out for yourself. Now I'm not talking just any old tractor repair shop. Look for those who do high end tractor paint jobs. With BCCC.
I saw a Mustang a tractor shop did in dark blue. It was a beautiful job. The body work was done by the owner when they delivered it. The owner bought the paint and all supplies. The tractor shop sanded, sealed, and painted. It looked like a show job. He charged the owner $1000.
After looking around in the shop and visiting the paint booth I saw some beautiful tractor hoods, fenders and other sheet metal parts painted blue, green and red. I was impressed.
I had the same shop do mine and I helped sand. He charged me $700 I gave him $1000. I couldn't believe it when I saw it. I did not want an all out show job. I wanted something I could drive. I got more than I expected.
I need to buff it out yet but I am extremely happy with it. I spent $1500 on material. I am glad I did not have to pay someone for over two years and about 1500 hours of preparation work. (I work slow).

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http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/t...thread.943236/ Heres a link to another forum. It might be of help to some here.
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