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Old 09-18-2019, 10:56 AM   #21
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Is the rocker panel for a 55 4 door sedan the same as a 4 door hardtop? Anyone have either laying around they could measure the length of the surface that shows when installed? (plus how much lip at the end).

The rear end of my rocker and the front end of the quarter panel are basically missing after removing the bondo. It's like 8+ inches of swiss cheese with extra holes, plus some pin holes then a giant hole back in the fender. After studying the situation I really think I want to install a long 4 dr. one so it goes back almost all the way to the fender well. This way at least the convex curve will be the same all the way back with no transition. Looks much easier than using the front quarter panel. I'll cut out what I don't need off the top door opening part.

And if anyone has used one of them, what brand/dealer was it from and how was the convex curve part of it comparing to original? That curve to me is a major cosmetic line in the whole side.
Inner rockers are the same on all models. BTW, There were no 55 Chevy 4 door hardtops built by GM.
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All of the above mentioned problems have I experienced. You can just buy another full rocker for a 2 door and use a section of it. The problem you will have will be if the rocker side width is high enough to fix your problem. The other issue you should be aware of is that the lower quarter panel at the wheel wheel opening is shorter from the lower pinch weld than it is at the front joint. To fix this issue you can either cut a long slit in it and weld that closed to change this or you can re-bend the 90 degree bend for the pinch weld seam.

If you buy a repair panel for a 4 dr sedan, the profile may be different, in my experience.

At the rocker to quarter quarter joint just do a butt weld. This will also solve a problem the overlap joint can cause down the road.

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Inner rockers are the same on all models. BTW, There were no 55 Chevy 4 door hardtops built by GM.
I'm not concerned about inner rockers, just the outer one.

I didn't know about no 55 4 dr hardtops, thanks.
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All of the above mentioned problems have I experienced. You can just buy another full rocker for a 2 door and use a section of it. The problem you will have will be if the rocker side width is high enough to fix your problem. The other issue you should be aware of is that the lower quarter panel at the wheel wheel opening is shorter from the lower pinch weld than it is at the front joint. To fix this issue you can either cut a long slit in it and weld that closed to change this or you can re-bend the 90 degree bend for the pinch weld seam.

If you buy a repair panel for a 4 dr sedan, the profile may be different, in my experience.

At the rocker to quarter quarter joint just do a butt weld. This will also solve a problem the overlap joint can cause down the road.

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I'm having a hard time following about the pinch weld and such.

Also I'm not sure if we are on the same train of thought with welding 2 rockers together. If I did that, I think I would want to make it go from the front, and back through what was the quarter, almost to the wheel well. I have about 1.75" from the wheel well forward that is good, then the hole, so that transition shouldn't be too hard. No, a rocker won't completely fix the hole in the quarter, but it will get me close enough to weld in a backing plate and yes a thin coat of bondo. My metal working skills are limited and I would not try to butt weld a patch therefore the backing plate.

Looking at it again just now, I could use the rocker I have, cut off the rear part and the front part and make it work. I'm just concerned about the convex curve of the old rocker mating to the new one. It looks close but until I cut out the old and cut off the front of the new I won't know. And I'm not sure how noticeable a transition from one to the other would be.

Also I didn't take enough pics of the quarter I sent back. The entire length of the convex curve wasn't even smooth and even. And a full quarter is out of the question for me, my wallet, my skills, and not knowing how well it would fit.
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The pinch weld is the lower edge of the rocker lip where it is welded to the inner rocker using a "PINCH WELD spot weld" to connect.

If you don't need a full rocker all the way to the front, then use what you need by cutting out the area of rust. Then using the new section, cut out of it what you need to repair the rocker and the lower quarter. Just use what you need of the new to repair the known rust or damage you have.

I hate seeing guys take a repair section and cut out lots of good original metal just to replace it with stuff that will not match, simply because that is how the repair panel is supplied. It makes more sense to remove only the bad original, keep as much as you can of the original and only use just the minimum you need of the new to fill the void.

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The pinch weld is the lower edge of the rocker lip where it is welded to the inner rocker using a "PINCH WELD spot weld" to connect.

If you don't need a full rocker all the way to the front, then use what you need by cutting out the area of rust. Then using the new section, cut out of it what you need to repair the rocker and the lower quarter. Just use what you need of the new to repair the known rust or damage you have.

I hate seeing guys take a repair section and cut out lots of good original metal just to replace it with stuff that will not match, simply because that is how the repair panel is supplied. It makes more sense to remove only the bad original, keep as much as you can of the original and only use just the minimum you need of the new to fill the void.

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OK we are on the same page now. Trust me, I'm not cutting out any good metal that I don't have to!

Would you say that the inner and outer rocker are like a structural part of the car? I know it has a frame, but you know how that is without a body on it.
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To a degree yes. Because think about it from this view. When you step into the front of the car, the first area you step onto is the top of the outer rocker. The inner rocker adds more support. However the frame is tucked further inside with only braces attached to the "Rocker Box" = the inner and outer panels together.

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Maybe (as is often the case) I don't know what I'm talking about but aren't the 1955 rocker panels shaped different from other years, and I presume the matching point on the fender? Did you get the right parts?

At any rate, if you haven't seen this it may be of some guidance to you. http://www.tachrev.com/JeffLilly/rocker.pdf
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The 55 rockers/bottom of the quarter panel have a concave shape, where the 56-57 panels are convex. The photo at the beginning of the thread clearly shows the concave shape, indicating parts for a 55. Just that the shape/definition of those parts is clearly poor.
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I bought a rocker panel and the front piece of the rear fender and the fender part is awful. I'm trying to find out if there is a source for a MUCH better part. Here is a pic of what I got. The rocker looks good but...
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