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Old 04-25-2017, 08:25 AM   #41
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Well I haven't found time to get the engine parts to the machine shop, but I have been continuing to work on the 57. I finally got notified that the chassis shop is ready for me to come and have a cage built, so it is going there on Saturday and they will have it a few weeks. Last night I pulled two leafs out of the front leaf spring packs and got the current crank cl height down to 25" from 27". That is with a mockup empty block, heads, and trans case. I figure by the time I add the weight of the rotating assy, intake, carb, transmission guts, radiator, fluids, wiring, front sheet metal, etc it should drop to 24" or less.
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Old 05-04-2017, 09:00 AM   #42
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Well the chassis shop had a project take a little longer and I got pushed back, so I have been continuing to do some rust repairs on the old girl. I got the pass side quarter patched and straightened out and I got the tail pan finished last night. I am hoping to hear from him soon that he is ready for the car.

As far a my engine goes I have been stalling taking my stuff anywhere. I am unsure of the combo I want to do and I want to make the right decisions now and not regret it later. I was hoping to build an aluminum headed 540 in a dart block, but after getting back the quote on that I have decide I cannot afford that. I was thinking I would be willing to spend around 6500 and it is looking closer to 8000. So then my thinking was if I was willing to spend 6500 on a 540 I should be willing to spend 5500 or so on an Aluminum headed 496.

So my current options are
1: Rebuild 454.
Bore and Deck block
New Pistons (less compression than old build 12.5:1?)
Have heads checked out and repaired (049 GM big Ovals 2.19 1.88 valves)
Have camshaft checked to see if it is usable (hydraulic roller 248/254 @.50 300/305 and .560 and .580 lift.)

Pros: Cheapest (should be done under 2000 as long as heads aren't too bad and cam is ok), Probably Quickest turn around.
Cons: limits future upgrades/improvements

2: Build 496 in current block
Bore and Deck block
New rotating assembly
Aluminum heads
Solid roller camshaft or use current hydraulic roller?

Pros: Should make lots of horsepower and torque
Cons: Should be maxed out on potential (but that might be a pro?) Expensive

3: Build an under headed 540
Buy a 540 shortblock or even an unassembled 540 shortblock kit.
Have my oval ports checked out and repaired
Have my cam checked out and used

Pros: Best shortblock possible, lots of room for improvement
Cons: under headed and under cammed? Still expensive. Potential that the heads and cam are no good and that blows this whole plan out of the water anyways.

I am wanting to run in the 10's. The 454 combo in the other car ran 11.30's 1/4 and 7.20 in the eighth. and then later ran 7.05 eighth only which should be 10.99-11.06 1/4. The cars should be similar weight wise and geared the same. The one thing I am trying to avoid is making the new car slower than the old car.
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Old 05-09-2017, 12:23 PM   #43
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I took the block to the machine shop and they all ready have it bored for me .060 over. I talked my Dad out of his closed chamber 840 rectangle port heads and have ordered custom CP pistons with a tiny dome for 10.25:1 compression. Ordering a forged stroker crank, rods, and bearings today. Found an like new intake on craigslist for the rectangle port swap and got it purchased affordably. Things are coming together.
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Default Some useless gasser trivia BS for when you are on Jeopardy...

Hello:

Good luck, I love the retro look of a nice gasser. Gassers have straight front axles because it was thought to enhance the launch by pushing the weight transfer faster thru to the rear wheels for power traction. It makes sense as follows; in an ordinary suspension at wide open throttle (WOT) from a standing start, the power has to first fully decompress the a-arms and the shock absorbers before any weight transfer of the launch reaches the rear wheels. Hence, on a stiff straight axle, the weight transfer is almost instantaneously transferred to the rear wheels off the line. Same on the back end with traction bars, leaf springs are stiffened so weight transfer is quickened. I t5hinkthis knowledge came from https://www.cartechbooks.com/catalog...1&q=suspension

I don't remember people's names because I remember stupid stuff like this.... Good luck on Jeopardy, vehicle suspension for $500, Daily Double....
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Old 08-29-2017, 10:40 AM   #45
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Well After a very busy summer with no updates I need to catch everyone up with what has been going on with the gasser build. My last post mentioned my plans for my new engine build. I had a 6 week wait on the pistons since they were custom order so it was mid July before I was able to pick up everything from the machine shop. I have not yet had the time to assemble the motor yet and I still have to purchase my new solid roller cam. The motor build took all of the money I had set back to buy a rear end and have the roll cage built. I could of came up with the money if I needed to, but I didn't hear from the chassis guy all summer and I didn't bug him since I really didn't have the money. I also mentioned in this thread selling my motorcycle to fund the car, well after advertising it all summer I finally sold it Saturday. The new purchaser was barely out of the driveway and I was dialing up the chassis shop, supposedly he will get to me in a month, but I have heard that before. the last update I have is I found and purchased a pair of 15x8.5 slots this past weekend. And like 1971BB427 mentioned they don't have very much backspacing which is still giving me clearance issues with the quarter panel. But if I have my new rear end made an inch narrow on both sides it should be perfect and I still have the 10s if I want.
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check out the S&W rear frame section using coil-overs. they will sell you the correct width 9inch rear with the correct axles we used this in our car, with no real problems. ( other than finding the " instant center" to set the ladder bar height } good luck
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Car looks great! I think the stance is spot on!
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I recently dug out an old cell phone of mine to find these two pictures. I took these the day I first saw this car, December 2012. I am not sure how long it had been sitting here like this. When we lifted the body up part of the floor stayed on the ground. My dad and I debated back and forth for while what we were going to do with this car. In 2014 Dad bought a better black 57 150 2dr and we decided to part this one out and we sold the trim off of it. In 2016 I decided that I was brave enough to build it and began the process of collecting parts back for it.
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Engine is finally coming together. I did some preliminary work Monday, checked clearances, checked ring gap, filed the rings. Last night I started assembling, I got 6 slugs installed before I ran out of steam. I am really happy with how everything is fitting and coming together. Can't wait to hear and feel this thing!
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I really enjoy the process of assembling and fitting an engine after machine work. I took the easy route on the last SBC for my Austin as I was in a hurry. I had a local shop (Larsen & King) build up my short block, and then I finished assembly after that. It's a great engine, but missed the build fun.
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