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Old 05-09-2019, 07:15 PM   #11
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Mikey, this is exactly what had occurred when my body ma opened up the bubbling at the bottom corner of the rear window on the Poncho. It had rusted under the lead.

Yup, seen it a lot. The solder joint never comes up and is finished off under the window lip area. So the area under the trim and rubber are exposed and water accumulates under the seal and the stainless and penetration happens....

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Several years ago, I was working on my '57 trying to get rid of an oil can type issue. While heating an area, all of a sudden I saw some silver type liquid product run down the quarter panel. WTH was that. I never realized that lead was used in some joints. Guess I really never thought about it. So after leading a joint, how would you finish it?? Has bondo type products been around for a long time. I agree with what has been said; leading is a lost talent/art, Carmine.
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So after leading a joint, how would you finish it?? Has bondo type products been around for a long time. I agree with what has been said; leading is a lost talent/art, Carmine.
A wood paddle is used to smooth it out, and after it cools a file is used to finish it. Works very good on panel edges and seams. It can be sanded with certain types of sand paper, but a file is usually good enough.
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interesting thread. I have a 55 1st series that both cowl panels are bad on. I've ordered the replacement panels. I plan on replacing these. I've been told that the joint at top is leaded. should I unmask the lead and see if there is rust. or patch around it?

this will be my first ever attempt at a full frame off restoration and while waiting for my panels to arrive have been debating this. to do the complete cowl panel is going to be a lot of work but have never messed with lead.. I will have the full panel but I'm not above just sectioning part of it. I have to replace the inner panel and the center between the inner and outer cowl.

what makes the best sense to do? The joint appears to be very good. what would you guys do?
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I have a 55 1st series that both cowl panels are bad on.
Sorry, I don't know anything about the trucks, and I wouldn't make a recommendation on lead unless I was looking at the vehicle.
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A wood paddle is used to smooth it out, and after it cools a file is used to finish it. Works very good on panel edges and seams. It can be sanded with certain types of sand paper, but a file is usually good enough.
Very nice lead work! I'm assuming that wasn't your first attempt at working with lead?
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Very nice lead work! I'm assuming that wasn't your first attempt at working with lead?
Thanks, I've been doing it just long enough to be able to get it done without any problems, but no matter how good someone can do it, the use of it is limited IMO.
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The lead can crack. Not so much on the sail panel joints, but I've seen a lot of nice paint jobs with cracks at the top of the A pillars.
Hey Don, a good day to you. I wonder, would the apparent cracks one sees in these paint jobs be attributed more to an underlying structural issue rather than the actual lead releasing its bond?
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For years I have just welded the whole recess with my mig welder. I take my time and work on multiple joints at a time to control the heat. I then grind it down and flow 2 part epoxy over the area. JB Weld works very well. Just like it was body filler. I like epoxy because it will self level and leave a nice finished area. I then sand after it has cured. I then go directly to a urethane primer as I block the car.

I don't like the idea of laying another sheet of metal over this, this will create a place for moisture to get trapped, and just like over lap joints, can cause rust formation.

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Mikey, do you mean welding just the seam where the two pieces of metal join or do you mean welding the complete joint which is about 1 inch wide?
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Welding the complete area from recess to recess to level of the metal on either side.

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