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Old 05-12-2019, 08:12 AM   #1
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Hi everyone. Just curious, would anyone know how long Bondo or any facsimile has been on the market?? I used it in the mid 60's so I know its been available at least since then. I know they used lead at one time. Just amazes me how they got that so smooth to accommodate paint. Thanks, Carmine.
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Old 05-12-2019, 09:29 AM   #2
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bondo_(putty)
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Before the 1940s, body solder was often used to repair large imperfections prior to painting.[6] In both new cars and vehicle repair shops.[6] Solder repairs were conducted using a flame and wooden paddles covered in tallow or motor oil, which prevented the half-molten lead from sticking. After the war, automotive panels became thinner and larger, with a greater susceptibility to warping, making hot solder unsuitable.[7] The earliest 'plastic solder' can be traced to around 1940, a do-it-yourself solution to panel beating.
This gave the consumer the ability to attempt reasonably priced and long lasting repairs. These early fillers were epoxy-based and one part, drying by out gassing. Originally the plastic fillers performed badly compared to solder, but later improvements addressed this.[7] The most notable early filler was called Black Magic, and was popular before Bondo's introduction. Bondo, a two-part (resin with hardener added) mix of talc and plastic, was introduced in 1955.[7] It was developed by World War II veteran and automotive repair shop owner Robert Merton Spink of Miami, Florida.

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brings back memories. used it back in the 60's too, remember mixing it. was never very good at final result.
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Dad used bondo to fix a few rocker panels in his day. File it then sand it to get it in shape, then go over it with red claw glaze to make it smooth. A little flat black out of a rattle can and it looked like a factory paint job!
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Facsimiles have been around since before cars were around, to touch up furniture and framing.
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Red claw glaze. I think the stuff I used all so many years ago now was called nitrostain or something. Really it was just thick primer you spread with a little red rubber rectangle.
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Before the 1940s, body solder was often used to repair large imperfections prior to painting.[6] In both new cars and vehicle repair shops.[6] Solder repairs were conducted using a flame and wooden paddles covered in tallow or motor oil, which prevented the half-molten lead from sticking. After the war, automotive panels became thinner and larger, with a greater susceptibility to warping, making hot solder unsuitable.[7] The earliest 'plastic solder' can be traced to around 1940, a do-it-yourself solution to panel beating.
This gave the consumer the ability to attempt reasonably priced and long lasting repairs. These early fillers were epoxy-based and one part, drying by out gassing. Originally the plastic fillers performed badly compared to solder, but later improvements addressed this.[7] The most notable early filler was called Black Magic, and was popular before Bondo's introduction. Bondo, a two-part (resin with hardener added) mix of talc and plastic, was introduced in 1955.[7] It was developed by World War II veteran and automotive repair shop owner Robert Merton Spink of Miami, Florida.
Interesting. Thanks for sharing that. I also used that nitrostain. It was what I describe as a finish putty. Came in a tube or can. Applied with a rubber squeegee. Seemed to take forever for it to dry, Carmine.
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I've also used "nitrostain". Also called glazing putty. It's essentially the same thing as the old school red oxide lacquer primer surfacer except that it had a real high solids content. It's porous and unstable just like lacquer primer surfacer, except more so because it shrinks a lot.

While more modern "glazing putty" is more stable than that stuff, it's still porous and shrinks to some degree. The modern stuff is just body filler with less solids so that you can apply it in a thin and even coat, but at least it's 2 part.
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I used a little Bondo but my filler of choice was Tiger Hair.
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I have used a great product called metal mend, bondo with metal filings for added strength
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