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Old 06-04-2017, 09:32 PM   #151
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my 2 cents on this subject: For me it is an easy decision based on look and ride quality.

1. I am too old school to change.

2. The ride is ridiculous with these huge wheels and tiny sidewall tires. With the traditional 15" wheels/tires there is enough side wall to help cushion the ride as it had been for decades.

3. I recently bought an off topic vehicle that has 17" wheels with those tiny sidewall tires and it rides like crap. Besides the poor quality ride, I hate the look and will be swapping them out as soon as I can afford it.

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Old 06-24-2017, 06:30 PM   #153
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U.S.Chrome Smoothie's 10X15's wearing 275/60/15 BFG T/A's. The rim's are the deep dish version. Was running 295/50/15 T/A's. Yeah manufacture say's 9.5" max. rim for the 60's, but I think I'll be OK. Car is mini-tubbed with springs moved in and a narrow diff' so tire width not a problem, but wanted something taller.
Currently running 205/60/15 T/A's up front, but plan to go maybe 215/65 or 70.
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There's many here, and out there in the world as well that don't understand the flip side of that also.

My oldest stepson just HAD to have some 20's and fan belt tires. I tried really hard to explain to him that the tires are part of the suspension by having some flex in the sidewalls. He dropped the car by almost four inches and bought them expensive wheels and tires though. Oh well, I walked from that thing.

Less than 3 months later after dragging the exhaust and other parts off, blowing tires and bending the rims on small potholes, and a really uncomfortable ride, then coming out to go to work and finding his locked wheels gone and the car up on blocks, PLUS still owing on the charge card for them and the repairs to the damaged wheels and replaced tires he finally started seeing the light.

I didn't pull the "see I told you so" thing because I remember my dads first reaction when I started turning my 56 into a gasser lookalike back in 69. He just didn't get it, and neither do I understand a kids outlook on wheels and tires now.

NAD, this is not a personal attack on you, I just quoted your post because it contains all the usual elements of quackery that get thrown out, and I'd like to point out some things to consider.

While 15" tires flex some vertically, most of the flex is lateral, which explains why they handle so poorly. Fifteen inch wheels haven't been used on modern luxury cars in decades. For example, the Cadillac CT6 comes standard with 18" wheels, 20" wheels are optional. Even the ubiquitous Toyota Camry comes equipped with 17" wheels these days.

Your stepsons problems were related to a 4" drop, which is a lot on a pickup, much less a car. Going to a 20" rim, I really doubt the overall diameter was less than what they replaced, so his dragging the exhaust off is not really attributable to a larger tire size.

I've got a 63 Corvette that I run 15" tires on, and I have a Nomad with 20's. The Nomad rides better than my Corvette by a lot. I've run large diameter rims on my cars since they came out and I've never damaged a rim or had a blowout, and I know people with 15" tires that have damaged rims and blown out tires.

Basically, the problem is exactly what you describe your dad had - an unwillingness to see that anyone can have a different opinion on what they can like if it's different from your own. A difference of opinion is fine, just don't use half-baked reasons why your opinion is better. Just say you like the old school look and leave it at that.
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NAD, this is not a personal attack on you, I just quoted your post because it contains all the usual elements of quackery that get thrown out, and I'd like to point out some things to consider.

While 15" tires flex some vertically, most of the flex is lateral, which explains why they handle so poorly. Fifteen inch wheels haven't been used on modern luxury cars in decades. For example, the Cadillac CT6 comes standard with 18" wheels, 20" wheels are optional. Even the ubiquitous Toyota Camry comes equipped with 17" wheels these days.

Your stepsons problems were related to a 4" drop, which is a lot on a pickup, much less a car. Going to a 20" rim, I really doubt the overall diameter was less than what they replaced, so his dragging the exhaust off is not really attributable to a larger tire size.

I've got a 63 Corvette that I run 15" tires on, and I have a Nomad with 20's. The Nomad rides better than my Corvette by a lot. I've run large diameter rims on my cars since they came out and I've never damaged a rim or had a blowout, and I know people with 15" tires that have damaged rims and blown out tires.

Basically, the problem is exactly what you describe your dad had - an unwillingness to see that anyone can have a different opinion on what they can like if it's different from your own. A difference of opinion is fine, just don't use half-baked reasons why your opinion is better. Just say you like the old school look and leave it at that.
I won't waste much time with return fire because it's obvious you and me are going to disagree no matter what, and we do come from different times, and yeah I'm into oldschool stuff on old cars. New cars are a different story and you can do all you wish with them.

But "half baked" and "quackery"?? Do you honestly think that I'm the only guy that's ever said anything related to big wheels, thin profiles, and harsh ride? Where have YOU been?

I'm glad for your car that you haven't encountered the usual problems associated with those rims and tires, but just in case you haven't noticed there are shops set up all across this land that specialize in repairing bent big rims now. Not meant as a cut down, just a fact that's caught my attention.

As far as my kids experience goes, I didn't in any way mean to suggest that his lowering of his Caddy, and the damage that ensued had anything to do with the rims he chose. It was HIS decision to drop it, and soon after he started paying the price. That's what kids do and I've been there, and I let him record the message in his own way just as most of the rest of us have done over time.

Had he have chosen 16's, 17's, or even 18's maybe I could have understood, but 20's with fan belts on them?? I can't think of anyone with any brain left that would think that the ride is going to be the same as taller sidewalls . Even his younger brother was shaking his head after taking a buckboard ride in that thing, and he was in the backseat during one of the several pothole incidents.

As stated we are not going to be able to see eye to eye on the wheel and tire thing. As my kid had to learn there's a cost involved with everything, and only time and experience teaches us, WHEN we have to pay the piper.
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I won't waste much time with return fire because it's obvious you and me are going to disagree no matter what, and we do come from different times, and yeah I'm into oldschool stuff on old cars. New cars are a different story and you can do all you wish with them.

But "half baked" and "quackery"?? Do you honestly think that I'm the only guy that's ever said anything related to big wheels, thin profiles, and harsh ride? Where have YOU been?

I'm glad for your car that you haven't encountered the usual problems associated with those rims and tires, but just in case you haven't noticed there are shops set up all across this land that specialize in repairing bent big rims now. Not meant as a cut down, just a fact that's caught my attention.

As far as my kids experience goes, I didn't in any way mean to suggest that his lowering of his Caddy, and the damage that ensued had anything to do with the rims he chose. It was HIS decision to drop it, and soon after he started paying the price. That's what kids do and I've been there, and I let him record the message in his own way just as most of the rest of us have done over time.

Had he have chosen 16's, 17's, or even 18's maybe I could have understood, but 20's with fan belts on them?? I can't think of anyone with any brain left that would think that the ride is going to be the same as taller sidewalls . Even his younger brother was shaking his head after taking a buckboard ride in that thing, and he was in the backseat during one of the several pothole incidents.

As stated we are not going to be able to see eye to eye on the wheel and tire thing. As my kid had to learn there's a cost involved with everything, and only time and experience teaches us, WHEN we have to pay the piper.
Did you read the first sentence of my post? I'll repeat it - not a personal attack, OK? I picked your post because a lot of you guys parrot the same old things. I never said anything about 15's riding the same. I did say they don't handle as good and that no new luxury cars run them.

Perhaps there's more repair shops open now because more wheels are made from aluminum, or because those wheels are more unique than old steel rims and you can't run down to the junk yard and buy a replacement cheap?


We don't come from radically different times, I'll bet - I'm 63. I said I have a car with 15's and a car with 20's. We won't see eye to eye because you're stuck on the same old platitudes and that's why I posted - to try and bring some facts to the discussion. You're no different than your dad, by your own admission.
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