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Old 01-15-2020, 12:17 PM   #11
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Note and CAUTION to the OP: Sometimes it's necessary to *remove* the shock pockets from the floor of a wagon to make space for the shock bar, so you should check for space between the frame rails for the shock bar before proceeding.

The shock pockets are reinforced with heavy metal and cutting thru all that can be a chore, AND the holes would need to be *sealed* somehow to prevent road splash from coming thru the area to the cargo wood and interior. When I removed the shock pockets from my current Nomad project, I 'sealed' the area with flat metal from above, but without removing the cargo wood/linoleum that would be impossible and sealing from below might prove to be a significant issue... ?

If the shock pockets are in good shape, it might be best to add the shock cover plates above and access to the top shock mounts and just replace the shocks where they are (until you are prepared to remove the cargo wood)??
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It seems like I can’t get past the “small” but annoying issues I find the Previous Owner sent along with this wagon. I enjoy the car, and have learned to just accept the fact that I did not build it, which was an age related decision.
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I am in the same boat...I've had my my 56 for almost two years, and I am still finding the PO 'gotchas'....Hang in there and good luck!
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Note and CAUTION to the OP: Sometimes it's necessary to *remove* the shock pockets from the floor of a wagon to make space for the shock bar, so you should check for space between the frame rails for the shock bar before proceeding.

The shock pockets are reinforced with heavy metal and cutting thru all that can be a chore, AND the holes would need to be *sealed* somehow to prevent road splash from coming thru the area to the cargo wood and interior. When I removed the shock pockets from my current Nomad project, I 'sealed' the area with flat metal from above, but without removing the cargo wood/linoleum that would be impossible and sealing from below might prove to be a significant issue... ?

If the shock pockets are in good shape, it might be best to add the shock cover plates above and access to the top shock mounts and just replace the shocks where they are (until you are prepared to remove the cargo wood)??
That's a valid point. However, I was able to weld in the Williams round shock bar with the body in place, using the empty floorpan holes as a guide. There is plenty of room for the top of the shock without hitting the bottom of the shock pocket. Here is a picture of mine. I have the shocks mounted now, but I don't have any pictures.

Let me know if you need any more info on what I did. Good luck with your project!

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John,

That's a great photo showing your shock bar installed which is surely to help the OP in his efforts!

Does your shock bar 'touch' the shock pockets in the body? from the photo it appears it's very close? There shouldn't be a lot of movement between body and frame, but it might make some noise at times if it's touching (or extremely close)? Have you installed a grommet? or otherwise sealed up shock holes in the original shock pockets? It's good to do so.
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That's a great photo showing your shock bar installed which is surely to help the OP in his efforts!

Does your shock bar 'touch' the shock pockets in the body? from the photo it appears it's very close? There shouldn't be a lot of movement between body and frame, but it might make some noise at times if it's touching (or extremely close)? Have you installed a grommet? or otherwise sealed up shock holes in the original shock pockets? It's good to do so.
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No, there is quite a bit of clearance. I'll try to measure it and let you/OP know. It's on my hoist right now, so it's pretty easy to check out. I haven't sealed the hole yet, but I'll probably just stick a grommet in there...

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I installed one of Earle Williams' wagon shock bars into my '55 210 2-door wagon. It is a fine product and when you call them Earle answers the phone. That man knows these cars front to back and inside out. The shock bar was well made and a bargain. I cut the pockets out of my floor as it was on a rotisserie but as has been said, there's probably plenty of room.
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M1Lover,
I really like the way you did your tailpipes. The P.O. put dumps on mine, right in front of the axle. I've been scratching my head about how to route them around the shocks, axle, gas tank, etc. This may give me a better option. Did you fab them up yourself?

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This may be a dumb suggestion, but I don't know how the set up is configured. Can't the plywood simply be removed and modified correctly? If you can put it in you should be able to take it out too.
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This may be a dumb suggestion, but I don't know how the set up is configured. Can't the plywood simply be removed and modified correctly? If you can put it in you should be able to take it out too.
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The wood is screwed down to the metal floor under it, in about a dozen places. The linoleum/carpet is then glued down over it. The trim long the sides is easy to remove, but not the linoleum/carpet without ripping it, to locate/remove the screws needed to then remove the plywood.

Not as easy as lifting the trunk rubber mat in a standard passenger car.

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I have a plan to address that problem, as well as eliminating the possibility of the tips of sheet metal screws sticking thru the floor.

I'm planning to 1) Locate the proper positioning of the cargo wood, 2) drill holes thru the wood in areas I can access from underneath the floor, then install stainless T-nuts (1/4-20-7/16") from the top side of the wood (which will lock solidly into the wood and flush with the top of the cargo wood), using stainless button head screws 5/8" ? from the bottom will secure the cargo wood to the floor, and then linoleum (or carpet, etc) can be installed over the top. In the future, should I desire to remove the cargo wood (with linoleum in place), I can remove the screws from the bottom of the floor. I will also be able to work under the floor without being scratched/stabbed by sheet metal screws protruding thru the floor!
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