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Old 07-11-2019, 07:43 AM   #1
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OK, I followed Mikey's suggestions for 'restoring' my original aluminum side panel. Although mine do not appear 'NOS' as Mikey's did, I'm building a car to drive and I think they are good enough.. I received my new quarter crests yesterday (already had new BelAir emblems from long ago!), so today I have a tentative plan to install the emblems and reinstall the trim (mostly to get them out of the way and back on the car!). My question is *what* to apply on the back of them to hold them against the quarter panel, prevent rattles, and prevent water from standing behind them. The ones I've removed have had various different materials applied in a variety of ways. I'm leaning towards 3m string caulk applied along the upper edge and back edge and maybe in a few vertical strips down the panel, but I'd sure love to know what you fellas have done, especially those of you who have done it many times and know what is best! If you guys give me some good advice, I'll follow up with photos after I've finished..

PS. Also suggestions for installing the emblems beyond what the instructions that came with them?
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Old 07-11-2019, 09:21 AM   #2
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I only put a few dabs of strip caulk in the center, just enough to keep it from rattling. Make sure you flatten it out or it will show a bump. It is best to let the water run all the way through. You can put caulking around each clip on the stainless. This will keep water from coming through the hole from the back side.

Not sure what to tell you about the script, I don't know how the new ones are made. Pins or?

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I only put a few dabs of strip caulk in the center, just enough to keep it from rattling. Make sure you flatten it out or it will show a bump. It is best to let the water run all the way through. You can put caulking around each clip on the stainless. This will keep water from coming through the hole from the back side.

Not sure what to tell you about the script, I don't know how the new ones are made. Pins or?

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Thanks Mikey,

Pretty much what I was thinking, but it really helps (my confidence) to hear how you do it.. Thanks again!

The emblems I have are both from Danchuk, but the BelAir emblems are *very old* probably bought thru the CCCI 25-30 yrs ago; they have tiny screws to hold them on (but I'm probably going to put a little dab of 3M emblem adhesive near to each screw (between emblem and panel). The crests I just purchased from Danchuk (thru Gary B) and they have 'soft studs' intended to be bradded/peened over; I think a little emblem adhesive won't hurt those either.
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On the ones that have soft studs. Place about 6 layers of good masking tape over the script. Lay the panel and script face down on a solid surface. I have a flat chunk of brass for this. Then take a flat end drift and a hammer and flatten each stud (moving the flat brass behind each one). You don't need a lot of pressure to do this. Just enough to compress it about 50%. If the stud is more than 1/8 inch high, trim it to this length from the back of the script. NOT the back of the insert.

This photo is of the studs on OEM scripts. They are not even 1/8 inch high.

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I'm going to be doing this very thing in the next couple of weeks as well. NOS scripts/emblems are INSANELY expensive. There was a set of just the scripts on eBay for $220 at your door... I love original and am fussy, don't get be wrong. But I have a threshold

I went with Danchuk show quality, curious to see pictures and what you've done! I plan to mushroom the pins behind the inserts as well.

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I've installed the (old but never used) BelAir emblems and the new repro crests and installed the panels to the car. These NORS BelAir emblems had *tiny* little screws for the back which were a pain to get going since my eyes could hardly see them or their slot!

Photos show how *old* the BelAir emblems were (remember when Danchuk - Classic Reproductions!) used to package the parts for the CCCI? (I suspect their 90 day warranty is no longer valid!~ after 25-30 yrs?)..
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The two side hung on the car (two small screws each). I'm laying out the clips/fasteners for the lower mouldings now and after lunch will put them on.
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PS. I slow walked myself into this particular order of installation... I was going to install the door window hardware and windows, but then had a thought (probably dangerous) that the ext trim fasteners would be easier to get to without the regulators in the way.. Then after installing the beltline trim, I thought it should also be ADJUSTEd properly to the quarter trim before I tightened the nuts... so now I'm installing quarter trim so I can finalize the door trim so I can install the door window regulators. I would bet most people have a better plan before they start than I do??
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Thanks David for flipping that image. hopefully everyone else sees it right side up now? My camera failed on me a few weeks ago, and I've been having to use my iphone cam since and it's a pita. I need to buy a new camera.

Note: you have seen bits/pieces of this Nomad each time I've posted about an issue or a rix... Tennessean AJ Coddington did the metal work and painted the body several years ago for a Nashville dentist. I bought it from the dentist totally disassembled 3 yrs ago sitting on the dirty original chassis with all the dirty original parts just as he took them off. And I've got to try and 'match' paint on a few items which didn't get painted (glove box door, ashtry, garnish trim, etc.. etc)...

I've installed the body on a corvette corrections chassis with C4 Corvette brakes, , suspensions, and RnP steering. I put an LS1 and 4L60 in it along with a custom Rock Valley stainless gastank. Hopefully *someday* it will be finished to DRIVE.. (before I get too old!)..
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I've been out 'attempting' to install the long quarter trim.. trying to align it up, hold it in position, get the pins in the holes and get a screw or two started... seems to be more than my eyes/body/2 hands can do... all at once... THink I'm going to wait on some help, even if it's only my wife...
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I've been out 'attempting' to install the long quarter trim.. trying to align it up, hold it in position, get the pins in the holes and get a screw or two started... seems to be more than my eyes/body/2 hands can do... all at once... THink I'm going to wait on some help, even if it's only my wife...

Easy to do: align it up and get the 2 over the wheel well. Hold the trim and then start the 2 nuts. This is now you third arm while you get the others installed.

Trust me I have had to do it a lot....


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