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Old 10-12-2017, 06:17 PM   #11
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By the end of this you should have a great cruiser.

Keep in mind that if you use the power glide the steering columns are different and you`ll have to add the shift indent on the cluster
After learning the three speed I don't think I ever want to go back to an automatic, grabbing gears is addictive

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Donít replace that rocker oil tube. Thatís a restriction built in to maintain oil pressure. Believe it or not, they came from the factory that way. If you put an uncrimped tube on it, the oil pressure to the rest of the engine will plummet.
Huh, from what i read on the 235 it was simply an old trick to get a few more pounds out of it. Thanks for letting me know
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Here are a few shots of 'Belie' as promised yesterday
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I have almost the identical car. 4 door 210. Mine is highland green/surf green. My heater is very different than yours, as is my air cleaner. I think I have the hd oil bath version. Also, I have the wonderful vacuum wipers. Fun when accelerating in the rain.


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Heater works really well, just wish the fan blew harder. Yeah the electric wiper motor is nice, what isn't is that the wiper cables are busted so i'll have to gut the dash this winter and try to get from new cable in.
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Don’t replace that rocker oil tube. That’s a restriction built in to maintain oil pressure. Believe it or not, they came from the factory that way. If you put an uncrimped tube on it, the oil pressure to the rest of the engine will plummet.
Is this what you're talking about?
You'll enjoy working on that fine 57. Sorry about the deer damage!
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Welcome! If the motor is a real 57 motor, the oil tube was a looped affair. Very common to crimp it off. Leave it alone, its not hurting anything and may in fact be helping.

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I apologize for the orientation here. Don't know why that happens. The version to the far right is the looped 55-58 tube. Moving from right to left, the next on over is a 55-58 that was cut and crimped somewhere along the line. The next two are for the later 59-62 motors. They came crimped from the factory because of a change in the oiling system which was GMs attempt to create a sort of pressizurized system, including an enlarging of the feed oraface in the head, crimping of the tube, an internal change to the rocker arms, and a change in oil supply from the rear cam bearing to a dedicated passage from the main oil galley.


Oil to the rockers in a 55-58 235 originates from the rear main cam bearing using a steel tube that runs under the side cover. This tube can get clogged over the years from dirt and build up which reduces the oil flow to the rockers. If the motor is a little worn, even if the tube is in good clear shape, just the extra clearance at the cam bearing will bleed off pressure. So, I would leave the crimped rocker alone, pull the side cover, clear the steel line. Then, pull the valve cover and make sure each of the rockers has oil dribbling (not spitting, just dribbling) out of the spit hole of each rocker arm. If you do, you are good. Push rods, use replacements (sealed power or trw). The replacements are tube style, the originals are solid. The originals tend to bend easier then the tube style.

Hard seats on the head, I have done them but no longer do. The reason? Some of the head castings are thin in that area. If you hit water (like I did one time) the head is junk. I run my motors pretty hard, no hard seats. Just asking here, but is there a specific reason you are rebuilding the head? Oil, smoke, lack of compression exiting through the valve seats?
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Yep. I have had two of those very expensive, very heavy heads turned into boat anchors by machine shops breaching the water jackets. Still, the 235 is my favorite engine. The will purr when you get everything right and run forever.


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Yes the tube on mine has a loop on it. I'll make sure to give the tubes a good cleaning, the main reason for ether getting it redone or just finding another head is 1: to be on the safe side and 2: I'm getting tired of getting lead additive, plus getting a head with a good 3 angle port isn't a bad idea ether.
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Is this what you're talking about?
You'll enjoy working on that fine 57. Sorry about the deer damage!
Yeah, poor fuzzy little bigger never saw it coming! I must admit the build quality of these bumpers are impressive, it didn't even care! The hood and fender took most of the damage.

I'm already enjoying it, that's for sure.
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Na, not lines (as in plural) just one small diameter steel line (same size as a brake line) under the side cover. When you take the cover off, this will make perfect sense. You do not need to add a lead additive. Believe me, I run the snot out of mine and have for years and years. Unleaded. In fact, The motor I took out and is sitting in the back of my garage ran for many many years on unleaded, raced for many many years also, on unleaded only. You will be fine without hard seats and not worth the risk in my humble opinion.
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