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I picked up a 350 that was supposed to have 170,000 on it have some ?


How to tell what make of pistons theses are? No markings on pistons except the # M-557 on the inside of the piston.

In the one photo of the #1 & #2 rod ends on the crank #1 rod, you can see it is a reddish color, rods 1,3,5,7, are this reddish color, rods 2,4,6,8 aren't?
What does this indicate?

Also #'s on the heads are 3932441 and the # on the crank is 3932442 does this mean this is the original crank to this block?














 

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Check the date code on the crank and block if they are close its possibly the original crank, looking at the block the heads have been off and on at least once in its lifetime as I don't think gm ever used felpro permatorque blue head gaskets. The heads don't seem to have a lot of carbon build up for 170k miles.

Check the block numbers to see what application the block was used in may help. I have never seen where the even and odd rods had a different color.
If the pistons have offset pins that may be a way they made sure they went into the proper side.I couldnt get any hits on searches for that piston.

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block is toast cylinders are already 80 thou over and has issues in two of the cylinders, somebody did a very bad rebuild on this at sometime.Back to trying to find a 350 block.
 

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I picked up a 350 that was supposed to have 170,000 on it have some ?
Not that many on the rebuild - maybe total? The grooves on the piston skirt are still relatively good - I wouold say 50K if well maintained, 25K if oil is gummy

How to tell what make of pistons theses are? No markings on pistons except the # M-557 on the inside of the piston.
Most "rebuilder" sets don't have id's stamped on the parts - these look like engintech (but all look somewhat the same) - however ETs are parts #ed with P- for pistons. Noting the relief above the wrist pin they look like rebuilders - they appear that they are compenstated for milling (deck height lowered - I recall the relief for a stock piston does not go all the way to the outer edge). Maybe camera angle light thing - but I see a lot of rounding on the crown and the land between comprings 1 and 2 looks horrible - this thing was abused with timing and lean - note how clean the tops are of the end cylinders - one side of the intake was leaking (the plenum runner that has the plugged vaccum port! - the other bank is probably just opposite with clean center two and dark end cyls)

In the one photo of the #1 & #2 rod ends on the crank #1 rod, you can see it is a reddish color, rods 1,3,5,7, are this reddish color, rods 2,4,6,8 aren't?
What does this indicate?
A "bucket" build - incoming engines are parted and parts tossed in a bucket - one guy may stand there and rize 40 rods in a day and into the ready bucket they go. Then when assembling a handful of rods are grabbed. A lot of assemblers are just drone minded employees who do one side at a time - they go find four rods (or however many needed to do all one direction for the days jobs - make em match somewhat) from the rod bucket and hang em with notch going fwd - then go find more to hang the other side the other way (that way you don't end up with 5 one way and three the other at final assembly!). So some were reddish and some were not. There is no such thing as left or right rods or pistons - this is set when aligning the splash tang on the rod to the fwd notch of piston creating left or right piston/rod assemblies - so its just an attention to detail and doing one side at a time in the rod press that made it work out this way. Obviously from a high volume shop. Volume does not always equal quality!

Also #'s on the heads are 3932441 and the # on the crank is 3932442 does this mean this is the original crank to this block?

Not necessarily - its a comparable though. But if the rods were bucket I would assume so is the crank.

Note the cup of the intakes - one is rounded and one is not - probably stocks from the bucket - but check the OD on the valve faces - if they are .030 over - (a 1.94 rebuilder has a 1.97 diam and a 2.02 has a 2.023 edit oops 2.050 diameter) then they probably also have .015 over stems and may even have an extra .025 taken from the keeper height. Which is okay for street - but I would not use them in anything that is gonna turn over 5000 RPM - weight issue.
 

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block is toast cylinders are already 80 thou over and has issues in two of the cylinders, somebody did a very bad rebuild on this at sometime.Back to trying to find a 350 block.

4.080 bore????? Thats almost into the water!!!
 
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