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Last month I picked up a 57 210 2 door post from out in the CA desert. It had been described to me as a "mild hot rod build from the 70's." I started right in on making it a bit more drivable….power front discs from CPP, power steering from Borgeson, new wiring harness from AAW, new rear leaf springs, new distributor, carb, manifold. Also ordered a complete new interior from Ciadellas. While disassembling the car, we found "archeological" evidence that this may have been a bit more than a mild hot rod. There was an iron plate in the trans tunnel, welded to the frame on both sides...like someone's homemade attempt at a scatter shield. There were also traction bars on the rear end. They are similar to Cal Tracs but are not adjustable. I had never seen this type of bar back in the day, only the old slapper style traction bars. Just thought I'd share this with you guys. It's always interesting to see what previous mods were done on these cars. Here's a few pics.
 

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Most of my old crowd called them bars 'radius rods'. I had a set on a 56 around 1970, but pulled them off and put on a much better set of Ansen Ground Grabbers. Absolutely no wheel hop with them.
 

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Wonder if it would be worthwhile to try and restore them? The rubber is all shot and somebody tack welded one of the bolts to the bar.
 

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Hey,its looking pretty darn nice.Post some eng. pics when you have a chance. :shakehands: :tu :tu :bowtier:
 

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Wonder if it would be worthwhile to try and restore them? The rubber is all shot and somebody tack welded one of the bolts to the bar.
Probably not. There are much better ones out there. If you like the style you have Calvert is still around and still offers them. Get out your wallet though! Some sellers want north of 600 bucks. You could probably do better on Amazon though.

 

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The bars are store bought from Traction Master I ran them on 2 straight line
cars with leaf springs.

http://www.tractionmaster.com/

In the 60's NHRA required a scatter shield for the "gas" classes, weld up universal scatter shield kits were available.

In the 60's I ran both items in B Gas class @ US 30 Drag strip in N IN. It was a 56 Ford 2dr sedan with a 427 side oiler, top loader 4sp & a roll bar. For some strange reason a rear seat was required in that class. @ that time if you won you class the track would pay you 5.00 or give you a trophy. I still have those trophy's.

Speedway has similar bars just north of a C-note
 

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That's right, those are "Traction Master" style bars, or some home grown clones. The tack welded bolt tells you that the installation was lacking or at the end of its life.

I wouldn't mess with them. Either go with a Caltrac bar, or an Earle Williams bar, which is actually similar to the Traction Master.
 

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We made some progress the past few days. Here are a few pics.

Installed most of the CPP power brake conversion and Borgeson power steering kits. Disc brakes in the front. Ididit tilt steering column.

Changed to side motor mounts. Swapped in an aluminum bell housing, new starter and tubular tranny crossmember.

Found a pair of slightly used (never installed, but a bit banged up and rusty from sitting around the shop) Doug's headers that fit like a glove to replace the old rusty black ones that were in there.

Still a lot of little things to do...finish the wiring, re-install the gauge panel (now powder coated with all new lenses and trim rings), install the new Hurst shifter (old one was out of a first gen Camaro and didn't work too well with the bench seat), install new steering wheel and associated parts, install new MSD distributor, might change the carb and manifold. Should be ready to fire up and test drive in a week or two. Then new Ciadella's interior goes in. Can't wait to take her for a cruise!
 

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I wouldn't change a thing on this car if it were mine, I'd keep the traction bars and other old school pieces intact. It's a rolling timepiece of a bygone era. Everyone is doing resto mods, dare to be different.
 

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I wouldn't change a thing on this car if it were mine, I'd keep the traction bars and other old school pieces intact. It's a rolling timepiece of a bygone era. Everyone is doing resto mods, dare to be different.


I hear you. Problem was the car wasn’t very drivable. The steering and brakes were horrible. The rear leaf springs and bushings were shot. The wiring was brittle and patched, with no dash lights and intermittent brake lights. My intention is to do drivability mods that don’t interfere (too much) with the old school look of the car. The theme of the car is for it to look like it was hot rodded in the early 70’s...Corvette/Camaro pull out 350, Hurst shifter, black vinyl tuck bench seat interior, 15” Torq Thrust D’s, etc.


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The bars are store bought from Traction Master I ran them on 2 straight line
cars with leaf springs.

http://www.tractionmaster.com/

In the 60's NHRA required a scatter shield for the "gas" classes, weld up universal scatter shield kits were available.

In the 60's I ran both items in B Gas class @ US 30 Drag strip in N IN. It was a 56 Ford 2dr sedan with a 427 side oiler, top loader 4sp & a roll bar. For some strange reason a rear seat was required in that class. @ that time if you won you class the track would pay you 5.00 or give you a trophy. I still have those trophy's.

Speedway has similar bars just north of a C-note
I ran a car in stock classes and a scatter shield was required because I had solid lifters. Nobody was ever concerned about a car being "stock".

Dangerous Joe :viking:
 

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Frank,

Pretty sure I remember seeing that car listed online. I was mulling it over in my head on how to swing it as a daily driver then my logical side kicked in.

It's in much better hands right now getting the care it deserves. I like what you're doing with it style wise.

Jeff
 

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Engine is back in the car and work on the wiring goes on (and on and on). Now trying to figure out the whole front drive system and the 8 cyl vs 6 cyl radiator position thing. Doing a lot of reading on the forum and other publications regarding radiator position. I want to keep it as simple as possible, but it seems there are issues either way especially since the new motor mounts moved the engine forward.
 

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Frank,



Pretty sure I remember seeing that car listed online. I was mulling it over in my head on how to swing it as a daily driver then my logical side kicked in.



It's in much better hands right now getting the care it deserves. I like what you're doing with it style wise.



Jeff


Thanks Jeff. Coming from you that means a lot. I checked out your 55 build...amazing!


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Thought I'd take the opportunity to update my build thread, since all the freeways near me are closed due to the fires in SoCal. Oh and the '57 is at the upholstery shop, which is in the fire area!! So far that neighborhood has not been evacuated, but it is in the "2 hour warning" zone. Can't get there from my place right now, so all I can do is watch the news.

Anyway, mechanical work is mostly done. What was supposed to take 4-5 weeks took 4.5 months. I guess that's always the case. Repairing, replacing or modernizing one thing uncovered another issue. You know the drill. Here's an overview:

* Installed the CPP front disc brake kit with 2" drop spindles. It moved the wheels out a bit, so of course the new 15" Torq Thrust D's 215/60/15 tires rubbed a bit. Found out that there were 2" drop springs on the car. Switched them back to stock height springs...all good now.

* Installed the Borgeson power steering kit and Ididit steering column. No real issues with the install, but the column is really long and required me to find and install a very shallow dish steering wheel. All good now.

* Rewired it completely with the AAW kit. No issues, just took a lot of time and patience.

* Got a new high torque mini starter in an attempt to cure a hot start issue, but found that it didn't match up to the 153 tooth flywheel. Got rid of the old cast iron bell housing, found an aluminum one and switched to a 168 tooth flywheel and 11" clutch.

* Installed side motor mounts (the car already had a tranny mount) to give me more room for adding an MSD distributor. Of course this led to having to move the radiator to the 6 cylinder position. Took the opportunity to install a new aluminum radiator with integrated electric fan and shroud. Of course then I had to switch to an aftermarket hood brace to accommodate the new radiator hose location.

* Went to take the car to the exhaust and alignment shop and the Saginaw 4 speed tranny totally detonated. Got stuck between 2nd and 3rd at about 30 mph. Took it out and couldn't get the gears unstuck and the output shaft was completely cockeyed in the tail housing. Gave that tranny to a local 4 speed guru and replaced it with a newly rebuilt M21. Hardest thing about this is that Saginaw was one of the reasons I bought this car in the first place. It was one of the smoothest, quietest 4 speeds I've ever driven. Tranny guy said it looked like it died as a result of a high rpm power shift and broke teeth off of two gears. Nope, we were going less than 30 mph at the time.

* Repaired the complete exhaust system. Found a set of slightly used Doug's headers that fit PERFECTLY. Added a Pypes x-pipe. The car already had Pypes Race Pro mufflers, but the system was a mess. I had them weld everything and tuck it up nice and tight.

* Replaced all of the gauges, lights and trim in the dash, except the speedo. Replaced the speedo cable and the "bullet" in the tranny because the speedo needle was bouncing around. Of course I then found out the speedo itself wasn't working. Had to replace that.

* Replaced the rear leaf springs, shackles and bushings. The old ones were completely shot. Went with 2" drop ones. Also replaced all of the e-brake system.

* Ripped the old interior out and yesterday replaced all of the body mounts, bushings and bolts. Easier to do with the interior out.

* The car is now at the interior shop and they'll put in a custom ordered black vinyl one from Ciadella's. I attached a photo that shows sort of how it will look, except for the white stripe. Mine will be all black and of course have a split bench seat. That interior is from a recreation of Falfa's 55 from American Graffiti.

So my "to do" list has gotten a lot shorter, but not completed. I hope to be able to enjoy this thing soon. It's supposed to be a driver and that's what I intend to do!
 

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A credit to you, looks awesome, interior looks a treat, bet your itching to be cruising instead of working on the car :congrats:
 
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