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How do you folks keep the modern gas pump from spewing gas everywhere when filling up your '55? You can't slow down most pumps and when the tank gets full you don't know it until it suddenly starts spewing out of the filler spout.
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Fill up cans
Go home
Siphon it in
That is what we used to do to get leaded racing fuel into our hotrods
They would not let you put it in a car gas tank
I still buy 110 leaded (in cans) to mix up fuel for my Boss 302
Fill up cans
Go home
Siphon it in
That is what we used to do to get leaded racing fuel into our hotrods
They would not let you put it in a car gas tank
I still buy 110 leaded (in cans) to mix up fuel for my Boss 302
I’ve got a 12 volt inline pump with hoses on it with a power plug cord that plugs into my booster pack. I used it at my shop to empty gas tanks to install fuel pumps
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I wonder if it's possible to adapt one of the new capless nozzles designed just for gas pumps where the pump nozzle fits into the hole rather tightly and cuts off when the fuel backs up to the opening.
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That's a cool idea. Don't know if there is such an accessory. Let's look around.
I wonder if it's possible to adapt one of the new capless nozzles designed just for gas pumps where the pump nozzle fits into the hole rather tightly and cuts off when the fuel backs up to the opening.
try this

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At the least it would stop it from shooting out the filler tube.
I'm actually surprised no one has tried to do this. I wonder if it has anything to do with vented vs non vented and carbon canister filters for returns. Seems to me this would be a simple matter of welding the capless end in place of the cap end.
I'm actually surprised no one has tried to do this. I wonder if it has anything to do with vented vs non vented and carbon canister filters for returns. Seems to me this would be a simple matter of welding the capless end in place of the cap end.
my F150 has the capless filler neck and if I don't watch it it will still spew back some
Just about all of our nozzles in this area have at least three steps in the "trigger guard" and a detent. You can set them to run slow, medium or full flow. I've noticed that some stations have removed the detent. That makes you stay with the car and manually hold the trigger. I suppose that must be a safety issue, perhaps an insurance requirement, but most stations still have the detent. Back in the day, when you ran fuel all of the way to the top of the tube, they called that "topping it off". You just listened to the sound because when the fuel started filling up the tube the sound changed. This was true of all of the cars at that time, not just Chevrolets. Fuel spillage was common. I would occasionally see an attendant walk out with a bucket of water and pour it out on a gas spill. Yes, I said attendant. Something you don't see anymore. And we could talk about price. Even the name brand stations only charged about 35 cents a gallon. The independant guys sold it for as low as 25 cents a gallon. That was during the 1960's.
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An on the topic of gas guages --- when the bottom edge of the needle on my car just barely touched the top edge of the empty mark the motor sputtered and died and you were out of gas. No leeway. That is one thing that I would like to change when I get to that point. Modern cars generally run for a while after the guage reads empty.
Just about all of our nozzles in this area have at least three steps in the "trigger guard" and a detent. You can set them to run slow, medium or full flow. I've noticed that some stations have removed the detent. That makes you stay with the car and manually hold the trigger. I suppose that must be a safety issue, perhaps an insurance requirement, but most stations still have the detent. Back in the day, when you ran fuel all of the way to the top of the tube, they called that "topping it off". You just listened to the sound because when the fuel started filling up the tube the sound changed. This was true of all of the cars at that time, not just Chevrolets. Fuel spillage was common. I would occasionally see an attendant walk out with a bucket of water and pour it out on a gas spill. Yes, I said attendant. Something you don't see anymore. And we could talk about price. Even the name brand stations only charged about 35 cents a gallon. The independant guys sold it for as low as 25 cents a gallon. That was during the 1960's.
remember that well. As for the locking detent I think most removed them because people were locking them, especially in the winter and sitting in the car and when they got back out there were some fires from static sparks.
An on the topic of gas guages --- when the bottom edge of the needle on my car just barely touched the top edge of the empty mark the motor sputtered and died and you were out of gas. No leeway. That is one thing that I would like to change when I get to that point. Modern cars generally run for a while after the guage reads empty.
I make it a rule to never go below 1/4 tank in any of our vehicles.
I make it a rule to never go below 1/4 tank in any of our vehicles.
I do too, now. Back then I couldn't afford to pump more than two or three dollars worth at a time.
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I do too, now. Back then I couldn't afford to pump more than two or three dollars worth at a time.
Yeah back in the day I’ve pumped 50 cents
There are two types of gas nozzles in use around here (West coast).
In urban areas, gas stations are required to use evaporative recovery systems to avoid spewing hydrocarbons into the air when filling your tank.
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These used to have two hoses connected to the nozzle, but more recently the return vapor line is somehow incorporated into the same hose that supplies the fuel.
They often require applying pressure to the spring loaded seal mechanism around the nozzle, to get the flow started.
They can cause muscle strain, just trying to keep pressure applied during fueling.
(I presume they recover your fumes and condense them to sell to the next customer.)

In rural areas, there is still only one hose, and the nozzles fit deeper into the filler tube, like they used to. This type is becoming more rare.
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Odometer work? If so add X fuel after X miles, math is a requirement.
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That strategy does not account for city vs highway, crusing vs agressive driving. Too many variables to be reliable.
The only time mine ever splashed out is when I would add more and more after the pump first shut off.

Just thought of something. I used to go to a certain station where the ground was sloped away from the pump so the tank wouldn't get any air trapped in it and I got another 1.5 gallons in it. Later I shimmed the tank so the right side hangs 3/4" lower. You might be getting fumes stuck in there causing the belch.
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There are two types of gas nozzles in use around here (West coast).
In urban areas, gas stations are required to use evaporative recovery systems to avoid spewing hydrocarbons into the air when filling your tank.
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These used to have two hoses connected to the nozzle, but more recently the return vapor line is somehow incorporated into the same hose that supplies the fuel.
They often require applying pressure to the spring loaded seal mechanism around the nozzle, to get the flow started.
They can cause muscle strain, just trying to keep pressure applied during fueling.
(I presume they recover your fumes and condense them to sell to the next customer.)

In rural areas, there is still only one hose, and the nozzles fit deeper into the filler tube, like they used to. This type is becoming more rare.
Up in PA they had many of the nozzles you show. But some places didn't. Like you said, I think there must have been some sort of vapor suction at the nozzle to do the same job. Those big fat ones really sucked!
That strategy does not account for city vs highway, crusing vs agressive driving. Too many variables to be reliable.
That's true if you really want to know the mpg under a specific set of circumstances. But what really matters is what you average because that is what you pay for and the miles driven divided by the gallons used gives you an average figure. However, to be accurate you need to keep up with the numbers for at least ten consecutive fillups because you may not be filling the tank to the same level each time. Over ten fillups that small error becomes insignificant.
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