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Taken from the april, '92 issue of super chevy. I have found it to be accurate.

FIRST DESIGN MUNCIE
The first design was from 1963 to 1967 and is considered the weakest of the bunch. The cluster shaft is 3/4 inch dia., the selector plate has an internally pressed stud. Input shaft is 10-spline and selector shafts are outfitted with 5/16th inch studs.
Example:
Typical date code:p0503N
P-muncie
05-May
03-Third day.
D/N-Day or night shift(not always coded)
There is no year designation on these transmissions.

MONTH
01-January
02-February
03-March
04-April
05-May
06-June
07-July
08-August
09-September
10-October
11-November
12-December

THE SECOND DESIGN
The second design muncie (1967-1968) increased the cluster shaft diameter 7/8ths inch and included the second design selector(side) cover with the larger diameter pin externally pressed in to prevent it from shaking loose from the case. Selector shafts studs increased to 3/8ths inch. The 10-spline input shaft remained.
Typical date code:
P7T02
P-muncie
7-1967
T-December
02-second day

MONTH:
A-Jan.
B-Feb.
C-Mar.
D-April
E-May
H-June
K-July
M-Aug.
P-Sept.
R-Oct.
S-Nov.
T-Dec.


THE THIRD DESIGN(1968-1973)
Due to an increasing number of selector shafts breaking off, the only change made in 1969 was to alter the selector shafts by drilling and tapping them to accept a 3/8ths bolt instead of studded shaft accepting a nut.
Subsequent component changes made in 1970 changed the input shaft to a 26-spline(fine) and increased output shaft diameter to accept a T-400 trans. yoke. The final incarnation of the muncie lasted until 1973 when the transmission was taken out of service.
1969-1973 Typical date code:
P9B08C
P-muncie
9-1969
B-February
08-Eighth day
C-M22

MODEL IDENTIFICATION(1969-1972)
A-M20
B-M21
C-M22
Note: not always stamped

Originally, identifying the transmissions by external markings was simple. The M20(wide ratio) trans. had two grooves cut into the 10-spline input shaft and no fill plug in the case, while the M21(close ratio) had a single groove on the 10-spline input shaft and no fill plug on the case. The M22 had no grooves on the input shaft and was the only transmission to be equipped with a drain and fill plug. Unfortunately, over the years, replacement cases and gears offered by Chevrolet and aftermarket manufacturers did not follow the G.M. assembly line identification system, so trying to use this method to identify a transmission is almost impossible.

To determine close ratio(2.20:1 first gear) or wide ratio(2.54:1 first gear), mark the input shaft and output shaft, engage first gear and spin the input shaft and count how many revolutions the input shaft turns to make one revolution with the output shaft. Just less than 2 1/4 turns is a close ratio, and a little more than 2 1/2 turns is a wide ratio.
M22 transmissions can only be identified removing the selector cover(side cover) and visually identifying the straight cut gears-all other muncie transmissions had conical cut(angle) gears.

The most well known Muncie transmissions are the M20(wide ratio), M21(close ratio), and the M22(rock crusher).
Although not mentioned much, there was also an M23 transmission that was used, beginning in 1970. The M23 is recognized by a 26-spline(fine) input shaft and a large output shaft that requires a T-400 driveshaft yoke.
Although some claim that the M23 is a 'rock crusher', it is indicated that this box was assembled in both wide and close ratio components and also with straight cut gears common to the rock crusher (M22) transmission.

This chart, so far, has been very accurate in identifying the muncie trans. over the years, so I wanted to share. It sure seems alot of the muncies out there have made their homes in the tri-5's, so I think it would be good to have it here for everyone to use.



Jay
 
I've never heard of a 3/4" cluster gear shaft, please see picture I've posted. This is from a Borg Warner transmission gear parts catalog dated,.. well there is no date but, all applications stop about 1975 so the cat. has to be a '75. It is cat no. HP5. hope this helps.
 
56 chevy 2dr.hardtop trans clutch linkage problem

bought car not running,just got motor going,no clutch.found throwout bearing broken in half.replaced but can,t get trans to go in gear .shift linkage looks okay. pushed clutch pedal down about 1 inch engages all the way it seems. any ideas how to get shifting to work or is my trans maybe bad. with clutch pushed in by son and me under car drive line rotates while running stops when clutch out. any help or advice appreciated
 
tranny and rear end.

if i take pictures of my tranny and rear end up on the lift--can someone tell me what i have in this car by looking at the pictures of both of them,i will take pictures of both sides of each unit.....anything else i should do while it is in the air?????:beer:
 
Just saw this post. Came around at a good time as I will be pulling mine to replace my clutch, I never have known which Muncie I have.

Thanks,
 
Well I found out which Muncie I have, it is a 1967 M-20. As a side note to this, when I had it out doing my clutch I drained the oil and put Redline MT-90 back in, it shifts like it was new, of course the new clutch probably helps a little.

Thanks again for the info:D
 
I thought I would add a bit of information to this thread. Muncies are very popular, evey bit we can learn sure helps. :)

Case Casting Numbers

3831704 -1963 Only (M20, M21) (7/8" Cluster Gear Pin) (No Drain Plug)
3839606- 1963-1964 (M20, M21) (7/8" Cluster Gear Pin) (No Drain Plug)
3851325- 1964-1965 (M20, M21) (7/8" Cluster Gear Pin) (No Drain Plug)
3885010- 1965-1967 (M20, M21, M22) (1" Cluster Gear Pin) (No Drain Plug Except On M22's)
3925660- 1968-1969 (M20, M21, M22) (1" Cluster Gear Pin) (No Drain Plug Except On M22's)
3925661- 1970-1974 (M20, M21, M22) (1" Cluster Gear Pin) (All Transmissions Equipped With Drain Plug)

Tail Housing Casting Numbers

3831731- 1963 (27 Spline Main Shaft) (Driver Side Speedometer)
3846429- 1963 (27 Spline Main Shaft) (Driver Side Speedometer)
3846429- 1963-1965 (27 Spline Main Shaft) (Driver Side Speedometer)
9779246- 1964-1965 (Long Tail Housing For Pontiac Catalina) (27 Spline Main Shaft) (Driver Side Speedometer)
3857584 - 1966-1970 (27 Spline Main Shaft) (Passenger Side Speedometer)
3978764- 1970-1974 (32 Spline Main Shaft) (Passenger Side Speedometer)

Side Cover Castings

3831707- 1963-1965 (Stud Type Shift Shafts)
3884685- 1966-1969 (Stud Type Shift Shafts)
3952642- No Dates Listed (Bolt On Type Shift Shafts) (TCS Switch On 3-4)
3952648- 1970-1974 (Bolt On Type Shift Shafts) (TCS Switch On 3-4)

Input Gear Information

M20 (1963-1965)- (Ten Splines) (24 Gear Teeth) (No Rings) (2.56 First Gear)
M20 1966-1970- (Ten Splines) (21 Gear Teeth) (Two Rings) (2.52 First Gear)
M20 1971-1974- (Twenty Six Splines) (21 Gear Teeth) (Two Rings) (2.52 First Gear)
M21 1963-1970- (Ten Splines) (26 Gear Teeth) (One Ring) (2.20 First Gear)
M21 1971-1974- (Twenty Six Plines) (26 Gear Teeth) (One Ring) (2.20 First Gear)
M22 1967-1970- (Ten Splines) (26 Gear Teeth) (No Rings) (2.20 First Gear)
M22 1971-1974- (Twenty Six Splines) (26 Gear Teeth) (No Rings) (2.20 First Gear)

Note- All 26 spline input transmissions came equipped with 32 spline main shafts, and all ten spline input transmissions came with 27 spline main shafts.
Note (2)- All 1970 SS 454 Chevelles came equipped with the 26/32 splined M22's. Other cars equipped with M22's came with the 10/27 splined versions.

In general you can tell a wide ratio from a close ratio input pretty easy. If the gear section has a larger diamater than the engagement teeth you've got a close ratio input. If the gear has a narrower diamater than the engagement teeth ring you have a wide ratio.

In the next post I will post some pictures of the different gears, and misceleanous things.
 
Now for everyones favorite part. The pictures. :D




M21 Gear Set



M22 Gear Set



Ten Spline Input Gear



Twenty Six Spline Input Gear



Driver Side View



Passenger Side View

Hope this little bit of info has helped.
 
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