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only on late mode efi engines, even then they will start , they just shut off when they don't see oil pressure right away.
 
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I guess I'm confused. I took my car to my local shop guy who works on tons of older cars and has for basically his whole live and he tells me he's not getting any oil pressure and I need to change the pump! He says bring it back after you get oil pressure of you can't get it to start, but I need to get oil pressure before I can go any further!


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see the big thing is it may not make any oil pressure just turning over with the starter. lots of cars don't. but once it starts it should have oil pressure.
 
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The oil that came out of the car was actually very clean too for being in a barn for 39yrs I've flushed oil at least 3 times as well! I'm thinking its a compression issue myself, but like I said I'm kinda new to this (engine diagnosing)


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I have another engine (235) out of a 57 bel air and it's only been sitting 10years! Any suggestions as far as getting it ready to try to start? I have already changed plugs, wires. Someone said flush it with diesel fuel????


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if your trying to do this yourself, start with the basics points fuel and compression. as long as it has some compression it should start just need fuel and spark.
 
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Ok cool! I have my old points distributor from my other engine, which has all new points, condenser and looks a lot better shape. And new fuel pump, thanks so much hotrodg, I appreciate it! I'll try that compression test first


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Ok cool! I have my old points distributor from my other engine, which has all new points, condenser and looks a lot better shape. And new fuel pump, thanks so much hotrodg, I appreciate it! I'll try that compression test first


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Read your other post. It should get some oil presure when cranking. The mechanic didn't want to try to start it without oil pressure.
Where did you get the HEI distributor? It drives the oil pump. See link I posted in your other post. Also, with an HEI distributor, you have to connect IGN1 and IGN2 on the ignition switch together, if you removed the ballest resistor.
I would not start it without oil pressure. I'm betting the distributor is not turning the pump.
 
It is entirely possible to get a 235 to start and run with the tang that drives the distributor not engaged with the pump. I did it one time with a brand new motor, just once though, lol. Try loosening the screw on the vacuum advance. Not the bolt,the screw. Get it loose enough so the advance will slide on the distributor shaft. Use a remote starter and gently tap the motor a bit pressing down on the distributor. Hopefully it will drop down. Once it does, you have to reset the timing. The other way to do it is to put a chalk mark on the body of the distributor at 12:00 to the block. Then pull the cap and rotate the motor around until the rotor is also at 12:00. Now, pull the distributor and use a long screwdriver to rotate the oil pump (the receiver part for the tang) so that it lines up with the distributor tang. Install the distributor so that the tang goes in and the chalk line and rotor are at 12:00. May take you a couple of tries. Do not move the motor at all. Also, just as an FYI, If you have a junk distributor, you can pull the gear and all of the insides and make a preoiler. Pull the distributor and install the preoiler, chuck in a drill and spin and check if oil pressure. If no pressure then pump is likely bad.
 
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Ok I will have to check a few things and get back on here guys! Wouldn't you know if the distributor was down in there all they way, due to the fact of the spring back that you can feel when you turn the rotor?


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Post a picture of the entire hei. Where did you get it from? The reason I am asking is that you can put an hei in but not with out mods. Langdon's stove bolt sells a small cap hei that is based on a v6 distributor and some have used a big cap with lots of mods. No, believe me when I tell you it can happen. You can get it started and it will run. You will just puke the bearings in short order. I can't tell you how many of these motors I have repaired over the years and I have personally rebuilt at least 20 if not more. So if I can have that happen to me, it can happen to you also, lol.
 
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