[AZ58Cameo]

I have a 59 Chevy Stepside with this Trans in it behind the original 235
6Cylinder,I Know it not the original Trans,But like to know what it came out of
I think its a Saginaw? but not sure and if it came out of a car or truck,
Previous owner put this in and the 3-speed linkages were made in a make shift
fashion, pardon the pun!

On one side of the case it Reads
GM 3852645 8 could be a 9 and the 6 could be an 8
2 031

the other side reads
GM 36
3825647

Thanks For any Help!
Allen

 

[USA1]

Is the trans fully syncro could be a HD Muncie or Saginaw. both use 27 sp output but Mumcie is much bigger.

 

[AZ58Cameo]

If it was a Muncie wouldn't it have an Aluminum Case? This one is steel (Or Cast metal)

 

[markm]

My brotherinlaws 70 Chevy 1/2 ton was born with a cast iron Muncie fully syncro 3 on the tree. That thing was heavy. I parted out a 69 GMC with one also.

 

[AZ58Cameo]

Ok Dumb ? Here, what do you mean by fully syncro and how would i tell?
I'll try and get pictures of it to show it if i can!
Thanks again For your Time!
Allen

 

[Chrome Lugnut]

Ok Dumb ? Here, what do you mean by fully syncro and how would i tell?
I'll try and get pictures of it to show it if i can!
Thanks again For your Time!
Allen

If it is Full Synchronized you can downshift in to Low Range while moving. A non Synchronized you have to just about stop or make full stop to get the transmission in Low range.
:anim_25:

 

[AZ58Cameo]

OK! Then To answer USA1's ? It Is Full Synchronized!
Thanks For your Time!
Allen

 

[markm]

Could be either a Muncie or Saginaw,

 

[Sparkywax]

I have a 59 Chevy Stepside with this Trans in it behind the original 235
6Cylinder,I Know it not the original Trans,But like to know what it came out of
I think its a Saginaw? but not sure and if it came out of a car or truck,
Previous owner put this in and the 3-speed linkages were made in a make shift
fashion, pardon the pun!

On one side of the case it Reads
GM 3852645 8 could be a 9 and the 6 could be an 8
2 031

the other side reads
GM 36
3825647

Thanks For any Help!
Allen

Look at this:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=531231

 

[Sledgehammer]

The Early Non Syncro Trans has a 4 bolt side cover.
The Syncronized three speeds have 7 (pretty sure) bolts on the side cover. At the top of the side cover as installed in the vehicle The Saginaw has one bolt in the top at the center, the Muncie has two bolts at the top spread apart.

Muncie:

Saginaw:

 

[markm]

And just like the 4 speeds Muncie good, Saginaw not so good.

 

[AZ58Cameo]

Hey Sledge, It is the Saginaw w/bolt top center like you pictured!
Thank You Guy's very much for the Help!
Allen
By the way,is there 3 and 4 Speeds made in the same type of case's for Both types?
if so how would you tell them apart?
Thanks again.

 

[markm]

Saginaw junk 4 speeds have the reverse lever in the side cover.

 

[AZ58Cameo]

Saginaw junk 4 speeds have the reverse lever in the side cover.

Sorry Mark,I am Confused! My Trans has two lever's (Or arms) on the side cover
and one of those is for reverse (59 chevy truck with the stock manual 3 on the tree shift lever and stock linkage that were fashioned to work with this trans.

Looks just like the one sledge pictured (Bottom Pic,the saginaw)
Thanks man i do appreciate the help!
Allen

is the four speed have two shift point's or arms coming out of the side cover for 123&4 gears and then another point (3rd)
coming out just for reverse?

 

[markm]

Sorry Mark,I am Confused! My Trans has two lever's (Or arms) on the side cover
and one of those is for reverse (59 chevy truck with the stock manual 3 on the tree shift lever and stock linkage that were fashioned to work with this trans.

Looks just like the one sledge pictured (Bottom Pic,the saginaw)
Thanks man i do appreciate the help!
Allen

is the four speed have two shift point's or arms coming out of the side cover for 123&4 gears and then another point (3rd)
coming out just for reverse?

All 3 levers in side cover on saginaw 4 speed, Muncie & T10 have reverse in tail stock.

 

[AZ58Cameo]

Saginaw junk 4 speeds have the reverse lever in the side cover.

Mark Let Me Re-ask this ? Could my trans that i have be a 4-speed?
and could the previous owner of hooked up the 3-on the tree linkage
and i am only using 3-speed when its a 4-speed?
Sorry for all the ?'s but is that possible?
Thx again,Allen

 

[Gary Blake]

no. sorry won't .

 

[markm]

Mark Let Me Re-ask this ? Could my trans that i have be a 4-speed?
and could the previous owner of hooked up the 3-on the tree linkage
and i am only using 3-speed when its a 4-speed?
Sorry for all the ?'s but is that possible?
Thx again,Allen

I have actually heard of it being done, but you have to rig up another shifter for reverse.

 

[AZ58Cameo]

I just Thought with maybe my luck that what the P/O did and i had another gear there!
O-well, Thank You Guys for your Help!
Guess i will have to try my luck and find a Muncie 4-speed, But sound like they might be
allot of$$$$ if you can find one!
Thanks again,Allen