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I have a stock 57 Belair/283-2bb/powerglide that I want to change
from points/condenser to electronic ignition. I am told this makes a positive difference in driveability. What is the best product I should buy for this stock conversion? I see that Pertronix makes a unit. Also, should I put a new coil and ballast resistor in at the same time? Thanks.
 
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I have this Pertronix distributor (D104600) installed in my 56 Nomad, and it works very well. It is an electronic distributor (not HEI) clone of a stock 1957 Chevrolet distributor. This particular distributor uses a Ignitor I module that must be used with either a stock points style coil and a stock ballast resistor, or a Pertronix Flamethrower I coil. If the Flamethrower I coil is used, the stock ballast resistor should be eliminated or bypassed. To add to the look of originality, I replaced the Pertronix supplied distributor vacuum advance with a NOS 1957 unit for a 4B carb (1116118). That way, I could continue to use the original metal vacuum line from the distributor to Carter WCFB carburetor. The number for the 1957 2B carb vacuum advance is 1116108. Available on E-Bay. Here are some photos of how it looks installed.
 

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I would say the performance gain factor depends on how much you modify or change the old system, and go with a newer, high tech setup.
I installed just the points module to eliminate the points, and changed nothing else, I don't think just changing to the points module will give any performance gain, but does eliminate the chore of changing the points and condensor.
I'm still trying to figure out why I changed mine, it was working.
One drawback as mentioned, it's a "black box" and no quick fixes or temporary repairs like you can do with a points setup.
 
I went back and forth on this issue a couple of years ago myself. On the one hand, I have never had much trouble with the points set up. In fact, they have been very reliable over the years. I also do not buzz the motor rpm wise beyond the spring tension of the points so have never had an issue with the so-called "point bounce." The point set and condenser are less then $25, last for quite a few years, and are not that difficult to find if you should break down from a failure (which in my experience is pretty uncommon, at least these days where the cars are just not driven like they were when I was driving mine as a daily driver in all kinds of weather and other conditions). Before I put a new motor in the 57 in 2015, the motor that was in it had not been tuned up for probably 10 years. Started and ran no problem. I did not even bother to adjust the points, lol.

Even if I needed to, doing a little basic maintenance on the car is my idea of relaxing. Hey, some guys relax by cutting grass, landscaping, putting little white balls in little holes in a plot of grass, lol, me I like to tinker with the car, go figure.

On the other hand, installing say the Petronix unit would in theory be an install and forget it process. I say in theory because there have been some reported issues and concomitant breakdowns because of a failure of the module. Then it becomes the problem of locating a replacement.

In the end, I opted to have the distributor rebuilt (I highly recommend it for anyone running a real delco distributor, made a world of difference) and to continue running the point set up. Three years later, not a moments problem, including all of the runs I have put on the car down the dragstrip at the last three nationals.

Just my perspective for anyone who is weighing this out.
 
Performance wise, I don't know if they do, but with electronic ignition it would be possible to make the dwell more of a time length that stays the same at different rpm, vs a degree of rotation that changes time duration directly with rpm. A longer dwell at higher rpm's will produce a better spark where the dwell angle with points is fixed at the degree of rotation it is set at and gets shorter time wise as the rpm's increase.
 
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hahaahaa B.S. here

hotter more positive high energy spark=performance AND reliability DUHHH!!
Talk about BS. An electronic module in the distributor does nothing for performance AND is not more reliable than points. PM me when you're on the side of the highway and you don't have a spare module. Been there, done that!

Dangerous Joe :viking:
 
Talk about BS. An electronic module in the distributor does nothing for performance AND is not more reliable than points. PM me when you're on the side of the highway and you don't have a spare module. Been there, done that!

Dangerous Joe :viking:
yea....right......have an hei in most EVERYTHING I drive....and NEVER been broken down along side the road like you claim....NEVER....over 3,000,ooo miles on an 85 Pontiac with a 305 chevy H.O. powerplant....2 caps and rotors,one set of plug wires,one set of plugs......NO way can you claim your points/condenser..... will last that long....FRIEND.....those points need changed/adjusted way more often than ANY HEI set-ups module needs replaced.....oh yea....points....been there done that!!!
 
Krunk, I think you may misunderstand the petronix. It is not a high energy ignition conversion, not a high energy module, not a small cap or large cap HEI (which I agree is a terrific system for those that want an HEI based system), it is basically a replacement module to trigger the ignition rather then the points as the trigger.

So my discussion is limited to the pros and cons of the petronix or other similar trigger modules. Now if you are talking about HEI vs. points, or some other high energy system, then yes, there will be differences, big differences in some cases depending on the application, but with a petronix or similar trigger, to the extent there is some performance improvement, I would think it would be fairly minimal.
 
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yea....right......have an hei in most EVERYTHING I drive....and NEVER been broken down along side the road like you claim....NEVER....over 3,000,ooo miles on an 85 Pontiac with a 305 chevy H.O. powerplant....2 caps and rotors,one set of plug wires,one set of plugs......NO way can you claim your points/condenser..... will last that long....FRIEND.....those points need changed/adjusted way more often than ANY HEI set-ups module needs replaced.....oh yea....points....been there done that!!!
The OP was not talking about an HEI system, he was talking about a module. This discussion is not helping him out any.

Dangerous Joe :viking:
 
ere is my $.02 worth. I replaced my points years ago with a Crane points eliminator. I remember way back then my car started quicker with the module. With points I was always proud of the way may car fired up quickly. When I installed the module, I felt I got a quicker start. Not worth arguing about but I just like the module. Its probably 12-15 years old and has been just fine.:flag6::):bowtier:
 
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