[tjsdelivery]

My guess is the drunk patron was a buddy of the manager's. Both with military backgrounds. Usually the bartenders aren't members or former military. So, I guess that's why there was no one to back her.

I feel she did the right thing. Everyone should have enough responsibility to monitor their own actions.

 

[roger1]

Can anyone say lawsuit?

 

[TheHotrodHandyman]

I have zero respect for drunks. You want to drink yourself into a stupor that is entirely up to you, and if you can crawl home on your hands and knees, then by all means drink yourself silly, but when you decide to get behind the wheel, then you are endangering the lives and families of others, and that is where I draw the line.

I could care less about the "business owner's" bottom line...to even side with him in this argument is absurd...and quite frankly repugnant. His income will never supersede someone's life or well being.

X 2!!! :congrats: :congrats: :congrats:

 

[Rapper57]

Seems like no one, not even the drinkers need to take responsibility. So, if we are going to hold the bar tenders responsible for making sure the drinkers stay under the legal limit then there should be a law making the fork manufacturers responsible for over eaters.

If I over eat and get fat, I'll sue the fork manufacturers. If I drink too much, I'll sue the bartenders or my wife (if I'm at home) I guess I should sue the magazine publishers and newspaper guys for cutting down the newsprint to 8 pt type and making me buy glasses and become far-sighted.

Yes...this all makes sense now. :gba:

 

[TheHotrodHandyman]

Seems like no one, not even the drinkers need to take responsibility. So, if we are going to hold the bar tenders responsible for making sure the drinkers stay under the legal limit then there should be a law making the fork manufacturers responsible for over eaters.

If I over eat and get fat, I'll sue the fork manufacturers. If I drink too much, I'll sue the bartenders or my wife (if I'm at home) I guess I should sue the magazine publishers and newspaper guys for cutting down the newsprint to 8 pt type and making me buy glasses and become far-sighted.

Yes...this all makes sense now. :gba:

PERFECT! :congrats:

 

[PowerPak55]

I think she had the responsibility to stop serving him, which she didn't. I agree with the business owner, if they report all their customers, and we know many in American Legion bar are drunks then the place would soon be empty for fear of being reported.

And the downside is?

 

[mickeywestsr]

She should have been given a raise instead of being fired...

:tu ABSOLUTELY :tu
:gba:
bowtie-trifive

 

[mickeywestsr]

I have zero respect for drunks. You want to drink yourself into a stupor that is entirely up to you, and if you can crawl home on your hands and knees, then by all means drink yourself silly, but when you decide to get behind the wheel, then you are endangering the lives and families of others, and that is where I draw the line.

I could care less about the "business owner's" bottom line...to even side with him in this argument is absurd...and quite frankly repugnant. His income will never supersede someone's life or well being.

A drunk driver should be charged with attempted murder.....OMO
:gba:
bowtie-trifive

 

[Sledgehammer]

Can anyone say lawsuit?

Sure a lot of people can.

None of us know the whole situation, but from what you read she knowingly served an already over served patron. That's grounds for dismissal right there.

I would fire the person who got him that far along also.


also, she doesn't state anywhere that she tried to stop him... nor get him a cab...but she did admit to authorities that she violated the law by serving him.

 

[trifive]

I have no use for drunk drivers at all.

You know there is one unwritten rule for drunk drivers that kill people in crashes the drunk driver usually survives.

Otis

 

[angs1957]

We are suppose to be an educated more responsible race sure makes you wonder

 

[tjsdelivery]

Depending on the state (here in MN it's .08), a person can be guilty of drunk driving, yet really show few outward signs of being over the limit. I can see why bartenders serve people who may be over the limit (not everyone drive's). It's the people who are downright drunk or obnoxious who should be refused further service. Maybe this person had finally been cutoff and decided to leave. She may have realized the person was driving and acted.

 

[dnsdoor]

very true my step dad could drink a 40 pounder and you could not tell he was drunk until you looked in his eyes

 

[Ricks Tropical Delight]

i'm pretty sure here in ohio the bartender can be held liable if someone served by them injures somebody else in a car crash...

my bartender cuts me off after 4 beers. :beer: