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The hood is TOO SHORT by a lot with or without paint. The only reason I see for demanding it be returned in factory EDP is so it can be sold to someone else down the road. I have been in the business for 45+ years and have had to return trash ill fitting panels before, Never a problem on the return/exchange with the vendors that sold them with or without paint. Bottom line is you failed to do the right thing and now you are not happy the word is getting out and you know it will be biting you in the ass.
You'd think that someone who has been in the business for 45 years would know to fit a panel and trim to a 65+ year old car before spraying color on it. But I digress.....

Nothing is "biting me in the ass" at all. I have, and have historically had, no problem telling anyone up front that any single body panel, from fender to quarter to door to floor, from aftermarket to first run to NOS, will typically require some level of massaging to fit its intended 65+ year old application up to today's scrupulous standards of fitment. This is nothing outside of the ordinary. If this isn't acceptable, I'd stick to working on cars made in the 21st century. If anything, this is simply showing the other side of the story, and that side of the story is you and your "customer" pinning your oversight on anyone else except yourselves.

Feel free to come check out the giveaway car this year. It has the same hood installed, as we've done time and time again, and for some reason, it didn't wind up "too short" just the same as the half dozen or more that came before it. We're not miracle workers, we just understand fitting panels, I guess. That said, I can happily walk to my own garage and show you an original hood that fits completely different at the front, side-to-side, with even door/fender/cowl gaps, and original fenders too. Maybe I should call GM....

Agree and let me add this...The immediate response was NO; its YOUR problem...No offer to get up off your a.... (chair) and try to make it right by calling the manufacturer and let them know that a Customer had run into a problem with one of their parts...Possibly they needed to retool, because of a bad product run...No offer to pull other 55 smoothie hoods fin stock at the time and check them as well...In no way did you go the extra mile and do everything you could for PAST loyal Woody's customer.
No need to "get off of anything" over a scenario I've "been there and done that" with. I know what fitment of an aftermarket panel, especially one we've used over and over, entails. I saw pictures of a painted panel emailed to me before you were told what you were told. I knew the answer from the manufacturer on a painted panel after "being there." No, you wanted special treatment because of "who you are," and subsequently threatened me with after being told no. Sorry that doesn't work.

I get it. You guys expected to toss a panel from across the room and have it fit perfect with zero work whatsoever, which is an unrealistic expectation, as I've said time and time again. The ONLY problem with the whole deal, was you complained AFTER you rendered it unreturnable to the manufacturer. Somehow, you still choose to drag my name through the mud because I had to be the guy to tell you that you did so, and didn't dig in my own pocket or the company's to rectify your oversight.
 
You'd think that someone who has been in the business for 45 years would know to fit a panel and trim to a 65+ year old car before spraying color on it. But I digress.....
Did the car grow longer in its 65+ years or is YOUR HOOD TOO SHORT????????? It is TYPICAL that replacement panels get prepped and jammed with paint BEFORE INSTALLATION in any shop. By your thinking this would also be wrong. A replacement panel is supposed to fit the vehicle it was designed for. You should really get off your line of BS and seek some help, Maybe even take a class on customer service. Trust me when I say I will go out of my way to tell anyone that is thinking of making a purchase from you about this and the others posted here. There are plenty of reputable vendors out there that know what actual customer service is, You are NOT on that list.

As far as you insinuating I don't know how to build a trifive or any other vehicle for that matter, I did extensive work on a long time customers car including paint, body, interior as well as much mechanical work. That car was the ONLY car at a nationally sanctioned 55-57 show that scored a perfect 1000 points (not the only high point car I built or worked on) as well as a couple of BEST awards, Maybe you know how hard that is to do but maybe not if you think these hoods are the cats ass.
Aside from the hood being too short for a 55 the crude stamping on the hood peak especially around the hood bird delete is a mess.

BTW, I have seen a couple of your giveaway cars in person and I was not impressed with some of the work or some of the crappy REPOP panels.
 
Speed kils, why do you keep defending an ill fitting part that you sold?? I don't understand it. Painted or not, it doesn't fit. It's too short. That's the bottom line. Period. David and anyone else in that position, should have received a refund. Seriously, of what significance is it that it was painted?? Maybe preventing if from being sold to some other unsuspecting buyer who doesn't care too much about the fit? What else could it be?? I'm sure David wasn't to first one to complain about it. I think your mistake was, after you first being notified by someone, you didn't give the complaint the attention that was needed. No one is blaming you for manufacturing the actual product. I'm sure, at least I think not, you didn't stamp these hoods out in your basement, but the buck stops with you. You really should have taken this issue up with your supplier. Quit buying from him. Not worth the grief.
I also take exception to something else you said. I shouldn't have to massage any part or panel to fit. My expectation is that it reasonably fit. Proper length, width, contour, something to work with, etc. I don't mind working with shims, or other things, to get a better fit, but I'm not going to reinvent the piece either. If that was the case, I might as well take a course in metal shop and buy the necessary tools to to fabricate my own, Carmine.
 
My OE parts from several different cars do not fit very well at all after 67 years of hell. I just deal with it and getting it better to drive instead of worrying about how it looks. My OE hood is far from straight, and actually too long rubbing at the back edge. and I wish it was straight, since it's all I can see driving down the road.
 
Speed kils, why do you keep defending an ill fitting part that you sold?? I don't understand it. Painted or not, it doesn't fit. It's too short. That's the bottom line. Period. David and anyone else in that position, should have received a refund. Seriously, of what significance is it that it was painted?? Maybe preventing if from being sold to some other unsuspecting buyer who doesn't care too much about the fit? What else could it be?? I'm sure David wasn't to first one to complain about it. I think your mistake was, after you first being notified by someone, you didn't give the complaint the attention that was needed. No one is blaming you for manufacturing the actual product. I'm sure, at least I think not, you didn't stamp these hoods out in your basement, but the buck stops with you. You really should have taken this issue up with your supplier. Quit buying from him. Not worth the grief.
I also take exception to something else you said. I shouldn't have to massage any part or panel to fit. My expectation is that it reasonably fit. Proper length, width, contour, something to work with, etc. I don't mind working with shims, or other things, to get a better fit, but I'm not going to reinvent the piece either. If that was the case, I might as well take a course in metal shop and buy the necessary tools to to fabricate my own, Carmine.
Sure, will happily lay it out.

In order for a retailer to be reimbursed for a part from a manufacturer, through a return/defective claim, the part must remain unaltered from its as-delivered state. This is also clearly stated on Terms and Conditions on our website.

Sanding a painting a panel is altering it from its original state, regardless how it may or may not affect the problem.

Therefore, there is no recourse from a retailer's end with the manufacturer on said panel. It is left to the retailer to make the refund out-of-pocket for nothing more than the customer rendering the panel unreturnable before discovering an issue. I'm sure the argument here, is that the refund should've been made by Woody's, which I'll maintain is unreasonable.

To be clear, no one called and complained, before or after, about the hood being "too short" after a dozen plus being sold since David's transaction, and many more going along with new bodies. The knowledge I spoke of came from internal use. Which is also where my stance comes of the panel not being unusable. To some, "bolts up and latches" = fits. To others, no bodywork whatsoever out of the box = fits. I won't damn or defend the panel in that regard. Everyone is entitled to their opinion of what is or isn't "usable."

To be very, very clear, no one is faulted for not liking fit. The defense here is against the fact that it was not eligible for return in the state it was in. To the cry of "stop buying," it'd be really difficult considering that panel options are limited. You use it, or you don't. If we didn't have it, people would complain that it isn't available period.

Frankly, I'd love it just the same if all panels required no work whatsoever, and fit was universal across the board for these cars. But, this is simply not the case.
 
Just sad I lost my West Coast connection for decent parts. Sometimes I need the part quickly, made a mistake ordering from Ecklers and waited 10 days for the part to be shipped via Fed Ex ground. Was at our car club meeting this past week and one of the members was at the retail store and they said the state was raising taxes 250% so the owners said no more and retired. Age is going to kill this hobby; we need to encourage our youngin"s to join this hobby.
 
Just sad I lost my West Coast connection for decent parts. Sometimes I need the part quickly, made a mistake ordering from Ecklers and waited 10 days for the part to be shipped via Fed Ex ground. Was at our car club meeting this past week and one of the members was at the retail store and they said the state was raising taxes 250% so the owners said no more and retired. Age is going to kill this hobby; we need to encourage our youngin"s to join this hobby.
I work for Mutton Hollow Chevys and I can tell you a lot of guys in there 40’s and even a few in there 30’s are getting into the hobby. We also ship 150 orders a day this hobby isn’t going anywhere anytime soon.
 
Great news for people with Danchuk gift cards. We will start talking these orders tomorrow or the next day. We hope you enjoy our website and that we can help you restore your car.
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Just sad I lost my West Coast connection for decent parts. Sometimes I need the part quickly, made a mistake ordering from Ecklers and waited 10 days for the part to be shipped via Fed Ex ground. Was at our car club meeting this past week and one of the members was at the retail store and they said the state was raising taxes 250% so the owners said no more and retired. Age is going to kill this hobby; we need to encourage our youngin"s to join this hobby.
That sounded a lot more like CA TAXES than old age put them out of the retail business....
 
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what taxes? there are no new california taxes. business just got a tax rebate from the last administration. 35 to 21 percent.
Taxes dont put you out of business. they just get passed on to the customer. especially when you are a successful company.
the word was the 2 owners wanted to retire and spend less time at the plant.
the sales desk probably was not so profitable part of the business. each time i went to the sales desk they had about 4 guys serving and 2 guys on the phone. mainly with just me at the desk.
at 60 +++ years old and with enough money to retire and have fun for the rest of your life.
or do you struggle to make the sales desk profitable?
do you keep buying 3rd party items for resale?

im disappointed that i cant walk up to the counter anymore. but thanks to these guys we have had parts for a very long time.
good luck to them in retirement..ill be joining them soon
 
what taxes? there are no new california taxes. business just got a tax rebate from the last administration. 35 to 21 percent.
Taxes dont put you out of business. they just get passed on to the customer. especially when you are a successful company.
the word was the 2 owners wanted to retire and spend less time at the plant.
the sales desk probably was not so profitable part of the business. each time i went to the sales desk they had about 4 guys serving and 2 guys on the phone. mainly with just me at the desk.
at 60 +++ years old and with enough money to retire and have fun for the rest of your life.
or do you struggle to make the sales desk profitable?
do you keep buying 3rd party items for resale?

im disappointed that i cant walk up to the counter anymore. but thanks to these guys we have had parts for a very long time.
good luck to them in retirement..ill be joining them soon
Just what I was told at our meeting..............
 
Just what I was told at our meeting..............
I was at their store 1 day before it closed. Shayne is still working for Danchuk and I've dealt with him for 2 years. He said the only reason Danchuk closed was because the brothers who owned it were in their 80's and wanted to relax for their remaining years. That's it.
 
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