They have a great reputation with custom colors, what you also need to consider is if heaven forbid you need to do any touch ups your looking at a whole side obviously depending where needed.

 

here you go 28 years old i have won bests paint many times, old pic 3 of the cars in the pic are gone , guess what one i still have .

 

I am curious . Is the paint on the hoodscoop fading or did you just go with lighter colors.

 

My bud just did his Stude w/ HOK....For the 2nd time. First time it was involved in a fire.
Between paint jobs, HOK was bought out, and the prices went thru the roof.

 

HOK was bought out by Valspar. Quality fell, prices rose.

Expect many coats to get good coverage. I used HOK Kandybase tricoat on my 64 GTO. Brandywine over silver. The result was beautiful but so many coats. Walk the car and don’t try to panel paint it.

Would I do it again? Probably...

Don

 

I'm wondering how difficult their products are to use. I spoke with their support yesterday and their processes are more involved taking the multiple colors needed into consideration. I can definitely understand that there would be many coats but, the results are outstanding from what I've seen. I've decided on color but, now investigating paint manufacturers. Looking for input or suggestions. Thx

 

Not necessarily difficult but time consuming. You have to use their sealer and clear. Using something else is very risky.

There is a YouTube video of a guy painting a BMW with Kandybase. Very informative of the process.

Don

 

Four videos here showing the process:

https://m.youtube.com/user/21380/videos

Don

 

Second car I ever painted, er I mean sprayed.... . Imagine what a real painter could do....

Brandywine Kandybase over silver.

Don

 

I've used their paint and have always been pleased..... but the one doing the "spraying" matters too ..... :tu
Cowboy :flag6:
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bowtie-trifive

 

HOK actually rates some of their paint by difficulty to apply.

 

One of my clients had his 66 Chevy PU painted with House of Kolor candy. When it was brand new it was an absolutely stunning shade of deep violet, exactly what he wanted. Within 3 to 4 years it faded to a sort of plum color. I should mention this truck is garage kept and did not rack up a huge amount of miles. It was shown at several outdoor car shows when it was first finished, but only a couple the next season. That's when he noticed it starting to fade. The painter blamed the product, and HOK blamed the painter, so neither would do anything about it. This was not a low dollar build by any means, and needless to say the owner was furious. He's since built a couple more cars, and has one more in the works, but refuses to paint them anything other than black. For the record, he still owns the truck, but rarely takes it out. If you open the doors or lift the hood, the jambs and underside are still violet, which really emphasizes that's something is very wrong.

 

The problem and cause of this is the candy. They are inks, or dyes. They have no UV stability. While they may look good for a while, eventually they go to crap. It doesn't matter how much clear is on them, it is the dye that will fail. Sorry for your friend, but I have seen this many, many times.

 

Sounds like he should just paint it black.

 

mine on my car in pic above is over 28 years it never faded but it is the older paint . still lots of deep shine

 

Once you start to play with the formulae and cut costs the quality goes

 

Great feedback but, now I'm a little gun shy to use the mandy because of the fading mentioned which makes perfect sense. I'm looking at Brandywine over Net Black per HOC recommendations vs over silver. I'm curious if going over black is less likely to show the fading?

 

Use the Kandybase instead of true Kandy. The clear coat will offer UV protection. Almost the same look but a more stable finish.

Don

 

Yes the Kandies will fade over time and it is indeed due to the dyes deterioration.

When applying the kandy it is recommended to use 6 coats of kandy and then 4-6 coats of klear over them.

I only use the HOK Klear over kandy because the UC-35 and UFC-19 have the highest UV protection content of any clear on the market. It does not stop the deterioration completely but it does prolong it.

Applying over a darker base does appear to help longevity, but it is due to the dark color hiding the amount of fade more than a light color does. Take the 2 examples below.

My Big Orange truck was sprayed with Kandy Tangerine over Pewter base with multiple pearls for the graphics and flames way back in 2001. it sets outside 24/7/365 due to it not fitting in a garage (not to mention not space in the garage for it). I laid 8 coats of Kandy on it, blocked it smooth and another 6 coats of UFC-19 Klear over that, then blocked it smooth and polished it. It has begun to show some fade the last couple years, but then again the rockers have also been disappearing. It still looks good going down the road and up close as far as quality of the paint, but with 250k miles on, it's the rust I'm more concerned with.


My 1990 GMC Sportside was done in Deep violet over black with silver fade graphic stripes way back in 1990. Also with 8 coats of Deep Violet over the black and graphics, then 6 coats of Klear over that. It still appears to look great to everyone, but I can see some fading has occurred to that also, just not as prominent as the kandy over a lighter color. Especially if it's out in the bright sun. Most people can't see it, but I can.


With that being said, you can also use the KBC (KANDY BASE COAT) to achieve the color you want, and then apply the Kandy over that to give it more depth of color. It's all up to you and how much time, effort, and money you want to put into the paint.


Using a UV protectant polish also helps the longevity of the Kandy finishes. The one I used for the past 38 some years is no longer available, so I'm searching for a suitable replacement polish.

 

I'm considering the KBC06 kandy base over Jet Black per HOK support recommendations. That will have a pearl in that mix, correct? Is it necessary to go over the base with additional kandy coat? Also, how well do you feel that color would hold up against fading? Then I plan to go over with at least 4 coats of clear. How much paint and clear would you plan on especially if I paint bottom on rotisserie, firewall and trunk?

 

I might hafta put on my jumpsuit and mask and come watch this!

 

Your more than welcome! Since it would be on your rotisserie, I wouldn't charge admission.:laugh:

I've not actually decided on HOK yet for sure but, I've seen several cars with it and they looked nice. I have some test panels I want to experiment on before committing. I'm getting close to blocking but, I keep finding little tweaks that slow me down. Hope to spray this spring before humidity gets too high.